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Top Story: It’s Up to Joe

“Let’s just take a look at Paul Ryan’s convention speech. It was packed full of lies…” – Stephanie Cutter, deputy campaign manager for Barack Obama [The Rachel Maddow Show]

JOE BIDEN knows how to deliver a one-liner. Remember way back what he said about Rudy Giuliani? A little flash back with the video above.

Everyone saw what Mitt Romney did last week in the first presidential debate. Governor Mitt showed up, leaving “severely conservative” Mitt in the green room.

When Paul Ryan gave his convention speech, he lied about Obama on an auto plant that shut down under George W. Bush. He continued the race-baiting work line on Medicare. His speech was panned.

Now Ryan’s got a new problem. With Mitt Romney falsely representing himself to an Iowa editorial board on his views on abortion, then having to walk back what he said when Tony Perkins had a hissy, Ryan has to fix the “gaffe.” Romney’s also had to re-embrace wanting to gut Planned Parenthood funding, as well as believing in forced birth for women.

Paul Ryan has said he and Romney stand together on their views on abortion, which only matters if Democrats make them choke on them.

To Romney and Ryan reproductive health care is a social issue. That’s a euphemism for men controlling women even if they have to use the federal or state government to do it. Conservatism doesn’t mean what it once did, before Ronald Reagan allowed the old crone Phyllis Schlafly and the late Jerry Falwell to cross the line on where religion belongs. Religious conservatives believe men are meant to have power over women, with women of this ilk believing freedom is only for men, which is why feminism is so scary to them. Phyllis Schlafly defeated the ERA amendment because she believed women had it good and didn’t want to rock the sex role boat. It’s the foundation of the fundamentalism that also guides the religiosity of people like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. As their religions believe women aren’t fit to lead their churches, they think women aren’t equal to men either. This philosophy blankets their policy prescriptions.

To Barack Obama women’s reproductive rights has been a political tool, but it’s clear he does believe women should control our health care decisions. The word abortion sticks in his throat whenever he talks about this issue. He bowed to Stupak when he didn’t have to, then put politics over science on Plan B. Obama also codified the Hyde Amendment in law, which was wrong and the first time in history it had been done, forever changing the dynamic for women on this issue, the full ramifications still unknown. But the President also has plenty in the win column. He wove real benefits for women throughout ACA, including serious preventative measures, as well as free contraception, all of which are economic issues, not simply a social issue from the men’s club of patriarchal prerogative.

It’s one reason Obama’s stance on Social Security is not only untenable, but unacceptable. Nothing impacts women more than Social Security, because more women rely on it to stay out of poverty.

Joe Biden can take on Ryan’s anti-women agenda, including on Lily Ledbetter, which Romney also ducked, then double down when delivering the case against Paul Ryan when it comes to seniors.

A long time ago when you could get close to Joe Biden, I was able to have a one on one with him, also getting him to share his writings on this site. I’ve heard him on foreign policy many times and we all would have benefited if Obama would have listened to Biden on Afghanistan, as well as Pakistan.

What is very important to hear from Biden is the blue collar case against Ryan’s economics. The middle class message that Barack Obama can’t seem to sell, whether it’s in a debate or anyplace else.

The one concern is the Obama prep team, with factions around President Obama who deride Joe Biden, which is widely known in the press. Joe being Joe is why his convention speech was the most watched of all the speeches, including Bill Clinton and President Obama. If that’s tampered with there could be trouble.

The right’s also gone to work on Biden, with his gaffes causing his approval numbers to dip, which Fox News Channel trades on regularly, as does right-wing radio. The good news, according to Pew, is that 40% say Ryan will do a better job, 34% expect Biden to do better.

The Democratic base is depending on Vice President Biden, because the wider Democratic electorate trusts him, even if the activist and Obama loyalists don’t.

Paul Ryan’s an able adversary, as long as he gets to spin political tales and stay away from his extreme policy ideas.

After the presidential debacle in Denver, Joe Biden can’t afford to let him get away with that and I can’t imagine he will.

About Taylor Marsh

Veteran political analyst and author. Former Miss Missouri, Broadway performer, & relationship consultant at the LA Weekly, produced a one-woman show titled "Weeping for JFK."

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27 Responses to Top Story: It’s Up to Joe

  1. TPAZ October 11, 2012 at 4:43 am #

    In honor of MLB playoff season;

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    • Taylor Marsh October 11, 2012 at 10:00 am #

      OH!!!!!!!

      LOVE this. …and being a Missouri babe isn’t the only reason.

      JOE. JOE.JOE.

      • TPAZ October 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

        KHJ TV Channel 9 in Los Angeles ran this movie each spring in their Million Dollar Movie slot; Monday through Friday at 7:00 pm and twice on Saturday and Sunday. I was crazy about baseball and I loved this movie. It drove my big sister nuts because she wanted to watch Dr. Kildare. What more could you ask for when you are eight years old. This was before every spoiled brat had their own bedroom, telephone, and tv.

        http://youtu.be/o84Xhs6n878

  2. Jane Austen October 11, 2012 at 8:19 am #

    “It’s the foundation of the fundamentalism that also guides the religiosity of people like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. As their religions believe women aren’t fit to lead their churches, they think women aren’t equal to men either. This philosophy blankets their policy prescriptions.”

    Under Romney/Ryan women would be tossed into a garbage heap because of the religious beliefs of Romney/Ryan. I believe they would bring their religious beliefs into governing so women can kiss any sort of equality good by.

    • Taylor Marsh October 11, 2012 at 10:01 am #

      It is just so obvious, isn’t it, JA?

      Will the younger generation of women forget what you did, what my generation did?

      • guyski October 11, 2012 at 11:35 am #

        Hi. Didn’t you write about this a while back? By the way, did you get rid of your search feature for archives?

  3. Isis October 11, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    Hmmmmm

    This should have been now it’s up to Obama… after all it is HIS reelection.

    There is something really annoying about Obama being terrible at selling himself and leaving it to absolutely everyone else Michelle, democrats, supporters, John Stewart to explain what he is all about.

    • Isis October 11, 2012 at 10:19 am #

      Wrote this before seeing Lake Lady’s comment on a previous thread.

      Seems that my feelings are shared….

  4. casualobserver October 11, 2012 at 10:43 am #

    Liberals can take the day off……………this will be a cakewalk………Biden has had, what 28 or so debates under his belt and Ryan has zero, zilch, nada outside of Wisconsin rep debates.

    The consensus expectation is Biden will do to Ryan what Romney did to Obama.

    Although, based on what you guys are saying, Romney didn’t really accomplish anything on Obama after all…Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter argued Thursday that the presidential race was “roughly the same as where it was before” Mitt Romney’s consensus victory over President Obama in the first presidential debate.

    • PWT October 11, 2012 at 11:06 am #

      It is only logical to expect that a man who is known for his gaffes and who has been kept away from the television cameras and press as much as possible would easily best a man who has had nearly 200 interviews since July and is know as a policy wonk in a debate.

      • casualobserver October 11, 2012 at 11:17 am #

        Shhhh!, please. Obama Democrats are dependent on the band-wagon effect to pull off this election. They really have no concrete proposals to win over the undecideds, so they need to make them think Obama is winning in a landslide so undecideds might as well hop aboard. Seeing what they can come up with to defame the opponent is what they do to fill up the otherwise available time.

        • angels81 October 11, 2012 at 11:24 am #

          What are some of Romneys concrete proposals? Care to give us some of them? Give us a few that he hasn’t flip flopped on every other week.

          • Ga6thDem October 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

            He doesn’t have any. Other than the stupid Ryan plan that will balance the budge in 33 years.

      • angels81 October 11, 2012 at 11:19 am #

        Policy wonk? Are you talking about the guy who got stumped on his own budget by Fox new’s Chris Wallace? Is that the policy wonk your talking about?

        • Taylor Marsh October 11, 2012 at 11:21 am #

          Now angels81, don’t rain on their parade. The force fed think tank punk just didn’t want to waste the audience’s time! ;-)

          • angels81 October 11, 2012 at 11:26 am #

            I just spilled my coffee.

          • Isis October 11, 2012 at 11:34 am #

            LOL!

          • casualobserver October 11, 2012 at 11:58 am #

            Perfect case in point of bandwagon mentality in action. Note the reflexive attempt to always turn the question back, never provide an answer. Then, so as to not leave such a feeble retort stand on its own, a comrade jumps in to then further move it off subject back to the tried and true (or more aptly, tired and true), discredit the speaker as if that will discredit the statement.

            angels81, you are in the tank for Obama……..give me one useful
            reason to explain anything about Romney/Ryan positions…….or even Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheehan positions……to you. Certainly, you are not so naive to think I would ever stop to justify what I choose to think to you, are you?

        • PWT October 11, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

          How about a little bet on the debate. If the consensus is that Mr. Biden won the debate, I won’t post for two weeks, if the consensus is that Mr. Ryan won the debate, you don’t post for two weeks.

        • PWT October 11, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

          That’s to you angels81.

          • angels81 October 11, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

            I could care less what you do, so find someone else to take up your silly bet. Maybe you and Romney could get together and make a $10,000 bet about something.

        • PWT October 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

          Oh, and by the way, Ezra Klein seems to think that he’s a bit of a ‘policy won’:

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/11/what-i-learned-debating-paul-ryan/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

          Do you ever read anything besides DemocraticUnderground or Daily Kos that might actually inform your debate? You never seem to make any attempt to support the claims that seem to fly like monkies out of your ass, (is that where the term comes from sech?). It’s really a pretty sad display.

    • Ga6thDem October 11, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

      Actually that is not what conservatives are saying. They are saying that Ryan is going to ream Biden because he’s so gaffe prone. I’m not hearing any high expectations for Biden and very high expectations for Paul.

  5. angels81 October 11, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    casualobserver, you could have in a lot less words just said… I don’t know of any concrete policies that Romney stands for.

    • secularhumanizinevoluter October 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

      No, no he/she/it couldn’t. That would have required a degree of honesty not to be found amongst the repugnantklan/teabagger/UBERChristian crowd.

      • jinbaltimore October 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

        wait! you took “racist” out?!?! Slipping?

        • angels81 October 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

          That’s all right, you got it in there, so you should be happy.