Oh, sweet Jesus, another apology.
It offends me.
Who’s going to apologize for that?
I’ll probably be asked to apologize for taking Jesus’s name in vain. Don’t bother me, because I won’t.
Rosen felt compelled to “apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended.” Now we have to apologize for saying what we mean if it pisses people off? More likely, it got her into hot water with her Democratic colleagues so she needed to make peace for business sake. Good luck with that.
President Obama strongly disagreed with Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen’s controversial comment about Ann Romney, saying today that “there’s no tougher job than being a mom. Anybody who would argue otherwise, I think, probably needs to rethink their statement,” the president told Bruce Aune of ABC’s Cedar Rapids affiliate KCRG. – Obama Rejects Rosen’s Comments on Ann Romney
–thump–
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…and the Obama reelection bus just keeps on rolling… ..right over Hilary Rosen.
When you’re a Democratic insider who’s inadvertently reinforced a decades-old favorite Republican talking point about what liberals and feminists supposedly think about stay at home mothers, the real faux war, there’s nothing left to do but stand and fight, except Democrats don’t do that anymore.
Politico is already up with the headline “Dems on defense in war over women.” It wrote itself.
I can’t abide Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter’s politics, but I’ll give them this, they aren’t bothered by the disapproval of others. It’s the only thing we have in common.
It would have been far more interesting, not to mention useful, especially for her, to hear Hilary Rosen take on the notion that Republicans were starting a “faux war on stay at home moms,” which is what she offered in her apology, taking it to the logical conclusion that they were doing so to cover for the real war on women they’ve waged from state to state. The problem is Rosen doesn’t think there’s a war on women. I have no idea how she missed it. So she can’t launch an offense rather than offering an apology, which is worthless to everyone.
You can retract your statement, but people can’t un-hear it, and if you apologize it should be unqualified.
Telling the truth, being honest, means never having to say your sorry, though you may have to clarify your choice of words. No crime in doing that, people misspeak all the time without anything nefarious meant. But you stand by the substance behind what you said, because you meant it.
Oh, except in politics, of course, because these days nobody ever does.
Hilary Rosen’s full statement, from CNN:
“Let’s put the faux “war against stay at home moms” to rest once and for all. As a mom I know that raising children is the hardest job there is. As a pundit, I know my words on CNN last night were poorly chosen. In response to Mitt Romney on the campaign trail referring to his wife as a better person to answer questions about women than he is, I was discussing his lack of a record on the plight of women’s financial struggles. Here is my more fulsome view of the issues. As a partner in a firm full of women who work outside of the home as well as stay at home mothers, all with plenty of children, gender equality is not a talking point for me. It is an issue I live every day. I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended. Let’s declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance.”
Why criticize Obama for apologizing and tossing his supporters overboard? It’s pretty much the only thing he does well.
This guy’s presidency will come to a stunning, sudden end the day he accidentally throws himself under his own bus.
woot!
The President said that she was a talking head on a network or something, like he never seen her before or heard of her when she has visited the White House many times. President Obama will throw anyone under the bus if they put a dent in his Presidental campaign, geez, no wonder why the Romney campaign won this round, the President and Axelrod, among others just handled it to Romney.
This presidential campaign is shaping up to be a real race to the bottom isn’t it? Which soulless corporate prostitute will come out on top? Tune in this November.
The whole “GOP War on Women” schtick that the Democrat party is trying to invent has run its course. People are not buying it. Rosen should also apoligize to her own mother, if possible. President Obama is right to put Rosen in her place because her remarks are a reflection of him and his entire Administration.
Have you ever had an original thought?
Woo, witty comeback there, Sandmann. What will you come up with next?
I guess you don’t think 1100 pieces of anti-women legislation in the state house means anything do you?
The GOP has made it beyond clear that they want women to be barefoot and pregnant.
1.”The whole “GOP War on Women” schtick that the Democrat party is trying to invent has run its course. People are not buying it.”
Gee, listen to limpwithnoballs much? It’s not working so well mittens is FAR ahead in polling with women….what’s that? He’s pushing 20% points behind?!!!!
2.” Rosen should also apoligize to her own mother, if possible. ”
Please explain just what the HELL this gibberish means?
3.”President Obama is right to put Rosen in her place because her remarks are a reflection of him and his entire Administration.”
Yeah, put that uppity woman in her place…next I suppose you want him to knock her up and send her to the kitchen? Really, are you as much of a bad steryotype in person as you come across in your posts?
Ugh, Sec. You make my brain hurt, dude.
Working hard dude. Hoping to hear a wet pop as it explodes! OOOPS! Capitals and exclamation points…was that a wet pop I just heard?
sorry, after “limpwithnoballs” the comment became pointless in a thread about sexism…you might want to try out a site called Shakesville to learn some basic feminism before you embarrass yourself further…with dimocrats like you, it’s no wonder women feel they have NO party.
At least Rosen didn’t say, “If anyone was offended,” the usual faux apology form.
I’m not feeling quite so sorry for Hilary Rosen:
In true DC insider fashion she, or someone working for her, doctored her Wikipedia entry.
She’s a DC insider, and if I were to guess at her motivations at this point, they would be that she apologized to keep the gravy train going. Honking off someone as connected and powerful as the Romneys and their enablers would not be good for business.
[I'll admit to a prejudice here. Rosen worked for the RIAA, which makes her an IP vampire in my book. Just sayin'.]
Jeebus Crispies, here’s another one:
She holds significant-sounding positions in two different lobbying firms (both of those pages appear to be current), and she’s also a “Democratic strategist”. If that doesn’t give you a hint about where the Democrats’ loyalties are on the economic spectrum, you really need to get some oxygen.
Cujo, it’s all just one big, stinking, incestuous, cesspool … that needs to be drained.
OK…I reread post by others that were concerned about what Ms. Rosen said effecting Dems….now, I am reading post by people who are outraged(fake) that Obama dare during a presidential season…back away from Ms. Rosen…lol
You guys do realize its election season…right?…Anyway, even if it was not that usual time of year…Obama has always hid from such ideological fights…I mean the man has been president for a couple years now…you would think this continued outrage would have been put to better use…by pushing for a third party that could reflect your values…instead of repeating the same old tired chant that Obama is sexist, racist, evil etc…
Oh well! If Obama is not your man this year…Romney is waiting in the wings.
Whah?
I’ve seen plenty of push here for third parties, etc., but IMO, the real issue is Progressives can’t build a majority because they come off as perpetually disappointed know-it-all’s who are forever being sold out and thrown under buses, and although those of us who can weather the incessant griping know it’s well worth the effort, it also takes a special kind of patience that few can manage.
Sandmann …. Good point about progressives.
To me, progressives are the only people in the American political sphere who think that you can get something from politicians without demanding it. And by demanding, I mean in the old style, or else …, version of demand. Conservatives get that, and their politicians are afraid of them. Ours treat us like crap, because they know they can.
The price demanded from any faction of intellectuals is that they don’t have the luxury of playing the fool.
“Oh well! If Obama is not your man this year…Romney is waiting in the wings.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Started the weekend a day early with the drinking did we?!!!!!! You didn’t REALLY type that did you?
Sec, dude, gently and carefully now, lift your fingers off the caps lock and exclamation keys. OK, see? Better now?
I just skip over his post. Secular seems to be in a constant, wired frenzy to post whatever happens to be roaring through his head at that moment, and I’ve never seen anything of value in trying to decipher his weird, preteen-level rants. So when I see his name I just move on, confident that I’ve missed absolutely nothing worth reading.
Come on guys~ I love secular and all of his liberal cranky ways.He is a die hard god love him.
Agree with LL re: SEC.. I actually like most posters on this board, even when we disagree.
Yep, his liberal cranky ways… here, here, LLady.
lol
Ya like that, Marie?
secularhumanizinevoluter….I wish I was drunk…then I wouldn’t have to listen to Democrats and Republicans argue nonstop over ridiculous comments made by each other everyday. But fortunately, I am sober…and have to suffer through this nightmare
Oh, get drunk then, girl. How can you tolerate even a quarter of it sober?
1.”secularhumanizinevoluter….I wish I was drunk…then I wouldn’t have to listen to Democrats and Republicans argue nonstop over ridiculous comments made by each other everyday.”
I do too, wish you were drunk that is. That would more charitably explain some of the nonsense you post.
2.” But fortunately, I am sober…and have to suffer through this nightmare
”
No, no you don’t. You can end the horror by turning off limpy and faux not news and regaining some contact with reality.
I am not voting for Romney either. I would love a strong 3rd Party option this year, as long as their platform is not somewhere out of this galaxy.
Rick Roberts…No…I meant that comment for something else.
Too late, dear.
Rick Roberts…huh?!
“That would more charitably explain some of the nonsense you post.”…secularhumanizinevoluter
So, my having an opinion that doesn’t reflect your personal beliefs…is “nonsense”…This one of the reasons I no longer belong to any political party…Our political climate has become so intolerable that we as Americans only spend our days making “Personal attacks” on those we disagree with…instead of putting more energy into building a stronger third political party…that will give Dems and Republicans a real challenge.
FYI: secularhumanizinevoluter …Sorry, if I offend you.
Marie… good post!
Point to Marie205.
Agreed. Point to Marie205.
I just visited to post my thoughts. Ultimately, it is up to Rosen if she feels she needs to apologize for a poor choice of words, if indeed the apology is sincere and not done from external pressures.
One of the things that is upsetting me the most these days is a general lack of civility on both sides. It is easy to get caught up in flame wars and personal attacks, and I will point to myself as not being blameless because I will take being kicked around for a long time before I bite back, but I will bite back if I feel as if I am being bully or abused. My other approach is just to ignore.
If I were to focus only on the media and political blogs, I could very easily fall into feeling as if the world has become a very mean place, every person for him or herself, grab a gun and duke it all out in the OK Corral and whoever is left standing wins and must be right, and know truth, justice and the American Way.
Except in my real life, I do see acts of kindness, and people looking out for one another and evidence that there is still in some places a “We” society, not a “Me” society.
But that said, looking at how news is being covered on TV, radio and in cyberspace, I would swear we have the same “negative goo” flowing under the earth here in the USA as they did in NYC in Ghostbuster’s II.
Can’t we agree to disagree and not get so personal and nasty, refrain from calling each other idiots, racists, etc? Oh, my bad. That would be considered censorship and infringing upon freedom of speech.
In my fantasy world, people would turn down the volume, stop the nastiness and try to be civil to one another. One can always dream, but the general direction of discourse seems to continue its downward spiral and will probably get much worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better.
Yes, that would be nice, wouldn’t it?
Hilary Rosen was a campaign advisor to Hillary Clinton during her Presidential run in 2008. She has said nothing to apolgize for. She is reflecting Hillary Clintons own statements on stay-at-home moms during the 1992 Presidential campaign:
HILLARY CLINTON: I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/03261992.html
Did Hillary ever apologize for dispariging work-at-homes Moms?
There are any number in the femininst movement who have always disparaged work-at-home Moms. President Obama and Michelle Obama are certainly not among them and correctly condemned Hilary Rosen’s comments.
President Obama has done more for women than Bill and Hillary ever accomplished in their eight years in office. The very first bill he signed into law was the Lilly Ledbetter fair pay Act that that allows women to sue employers for gender pay discrimination which the Marsh dwellers always conveniently forget.
If there ever were a more ignorant ( I mean without knowledge) statement made on these threads I can’t think of what it would possibly be. RAJensen is your beatle brain so small that you are unaware of the reach of influence Hillary has for women all over the world? There are women activists who credit Hillary for being alive because she visited them and her very presense and the media that follows her keep them safe from forces in their countries
Who do you think are the main beneficiaries of the work of the Clinton Foundation? Women and their children, that’s who. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
BRAVO LL — Brilliant!
Thanks whitepaw
and I agree with you about enjoying almost all the commenters if I agree with them or not.
What did she accomplish as First Lady. That was the point. Nothing, other than Hilary Rosen echoing Hillary Clinton on disparaging work-at-home Moms.
HILLARY CLINTON: I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.
Youi can’t be an activist for women when at the same time you disparaging work-at-home Moms which is what Hillary has always done.
which is what Hillary has always done
You mean Rosen, right?
Otherwise, I think you wrote that comment just to prove Lake Lady at 11:15 a.m. wrong.
Hysterically (oh noes! women with the hysterics!) funny!
sorry…I am not going to try and educate willfull ignorance.
I’m confused; is this the 2008 campaign bus Team Obama is throwing Hilary Rosen under or did they pick up a new bus to throw people under for 2012. Also, did they wait to hear her full name or did they just hear “Hillary”, panicked, and tossed the first liberal broad under the bus they could get their hands on?
I think it might be a new, bigger bus. They need more room under it.
Well, I’m just a couple of days late, LOL. But…as far as I’m concerned no one should have to apologize. Ann Romney is a woman of privilege and more then likely had a live in nanny to help her with her five boys. I have no pity on her at all. I was a stay at home Mom and for many years had to raise my kids alone because my husband was an AF pilot who was gone at least two weeks out of every month. And then he was in Vietnam for one year and I was at home with four kids from ages 8 to 1. I do not agree with the Obama campaign, but I’m sure they knew that people would really go after them for the comments that Rosen made. But I just think they should have made no comment at all. And I’m even disappointed in Wasserman. I’ve always admired her, I’m sure she was forced to make the statement.
Sadly, I fear that women’s issues are never going to be front and center. Unless of course the dems keep the WH and at least the Senate.