“They killed my son, now they’re trying to kill his reputation.” – Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sabina Fuller
From Michelle Malkin: Zimmerman and a FAKE picture not Trayvon Martin
Somebody is trying awfully hard to make 17 year-old Trayvon Martin look like a bad kid.
Yesterday, information was released about Martin and marijuana, which led to a school suspension, the reason he was visiting his father, but also looks like it was leaked to damage the victim.
Trayvon was visiting his father’s fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession. – Orlando Sentinel
Think Progress has a compilation of reports, including a very odd account of Michelle Malkin’s new social media site Twitchy. The photos you see at top are from Malkin’s site. After posting both pictures, with clear intent to make Zimmerman a good guy, while picking a photo allegedly of Trayvon Martin wearing prison orange pants low on his hip, she had to retract the photo, because it wasn’t Trayvon Martin.
Malkin’s intent is clear and a tactic used often, which I talk about it my book The Hillary Effect. You post a flattering picture of the person you’re supporting and an unflattering one of the one you’re not to get a predictable response.
But did Trayvon Martin react to George Zimmerman following him and throw the first punch?
Benjamin Crump, a lawyer representing the Martin family, said it was clear from the conversation between Trayvon and his girlfriend just before the shooting that Trayvon was being pursued by a man he did not know, and that he was worried and wanted to get away from him. – New York Times
From the Orlando Sentinel:
There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they’re not sure what happened.
Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.
Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police. Trayvon then said, “Well, you do now” or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose, according to the account he gave police.
Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
Zimmerman began yelling for help.
Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon.
Lawyers for Trayvon’s family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.
Zimmerman kept following Martin after he was told not to on the 911 call. That is not in dispute.
Who had the weapon?
It is also not in dispute that it was George Zimmerman who had the loaded weapon and that he shot Trayvon Martin dead.
Some may find this hard to believe, but having a concealed carry permit doesn’t mean you get to shoot to kill an unarmed person. A punch is not a lethal blow, assuming it happened, though there is not conclusive proof that’s what happened and there is confusion about whether it was Martin or Zimmerman who was crying out.
What we know is the Sanford police are under scrutiny and have taken a hit to their reputation for allowing Florida’s Stand Your Ground law to protect Zimmerman from arrest. George Zimmerman has been free since he shot and killed an unarmed black teen on the street.
When I hear about authorities leaking information about a marijuana suspension and any 17 year-old, but especially a black teen who was shot at close range after an altercation with someone following him who’d been told to stand down, all I can say is that it sounds suspiciously like character assassination to me.
Zero tolerance on drugs is one thing, but thinking marijuana makes any 17 year-old a violent criminal, which is clearly the assertion, as absurd.
But just look at our prison system and you’ll see that this is clearly what law enforcement believes is a problem in our society.
People also need to ask who started this entire tragic tale going down the path that cost Trayvon Martin his life? It wasn’t Trayvon Martin.
How this is going to get sorted out fairly at this point is uncertain. If it doesn’t things are going to go from bad to worse eventually.
If I had a gun on me and were being assaulted, I’m sure I’d be trying really hard to get my hands on the gun before my attacker did. Zimmerman obviously did get his hands on his own gun, and downhill it all went.
I don’t want people owning guns, but it was legal for Zimmerman to be carrying one. He should have obeyed the 911 operator. He didn’t.
If the account from the Times is true, I would argue having your head slammed into the ground is lethal force.
Ok, bring it on, folks. Twist my words. Have at me.
I agree with you RR. And if there truly was an eyewitness, it does change things. ABC (from a segment I heard on Anderson Cooper) also reports Martin was trying to take Zimmerman’s gun… and I do not blame Martin for doing that either.
Apparently by the end of next week, they should have enough evidence to determine if the case will go to a grand jury. I have heard by the woman in charge of the prosecution that it will be difficult to prosecute and have also heard that there seems to be little hope for a hate crime… if anything, may be a manslaughter case.
I still maintain the media has acted EXTREMELY irresponsibly with this… reminds me of the Duke Lacrosse rape trial. Rush to judge and incite racial tensions while at it. And.. Ohhhh… Isn’t Al Sharpton a big help in all of this. He seems to live for anything that he can grab onto that increases racial tensions.
Re: the marijuana, a non-issue from my perspective. But I did find it odd that the media was clearly posting pictures of a much younger Trayvon Martin….repeatedly… Here are a few interesting links… One about Sharpton… and another video from Anderson Cooper which seems much less biased than the trash coming from MSNBC these days. Did anyone happen to catch Lawrence O’Donnell last night? Lordy —
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/al-sharpton-trayvon-martin-msnbc-activism_n_1381913.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=hp_t1
I heard some conjecture that perhaps Zimmerman is a police snitch. That could explain why they let him go immediately with little question and why they seem to be trying to protect him. As a snitch, jail would likely be a very frightening place.
In any case, the problem with all of these carry laws is that frightened and/or paranoid people tend to go to deadly force quickly, and murder is murder. Even the concept of protecting your home–there is NOTHING I own that is worth someone’s life.
And besides all of that, how can it be self-defense when you are the initial aggressor?
“When I hear about authorities leaking information about a marijuana suspension and any 17 year-old, but especially a black teen who was shot at close range after an altercation with someone following him who’d been told to stand down, all I can say is that it sounds suspiciously like character assassination to me.
Zero tolerance on drugs is one thing, but thinking marijuana makes any 17 year-old a violent criminal, which is clearly the assertion, as absurd.”
EXACTLY. And Malkin is a scum bucket who wouldn’t know the truth or a fact if they bit her in the ass. That doesn’t stop her from bloviating non stop but she is a proven serial liar.
Rick Roberts, A 240 lb Rambo vigilante wannabee who utters racial epithets before stalking a completely innocent young man who has done NOTHING wrong AFTER being told by the Police NOT TO then confronts the kid and is getting his ass kicked…the KID is acting in self defense in other words…. The Kid was JUSTIFIABLY in fear for his life. The the vigilante then pulls a gun and kills the kid.
The vigilante should be charged with at LEAST negligent homicide or voluntary manslaughter, at the VERY least. And I would say since he set out with a gun, when EVERY town watch I am aware of SPECIFICALLY tells their folks to have only radios means he was looking for a reason to use it.
If this, then that.
If the Times story is true, then …
We will not know what happened. I don’t understand why a grand jury has not been convened.
The young man definitely wasn’t as pure as the driven snow, but he was a cute kid when he was 12. He was 17 when this happened.
“I don’t understand why a grand jury has not been convened.”
I realize that when watching an episode of “Law and Order”, the grand jury convenes within about 7 minutes of the incident, but in Florida, county grand juries convene only once or twice a month depending on the county. You don’t pay your grand jury to stay away from their jobs and sit around waiting for something to be brought.
The incident occurred on Feb 26. Before all the hoopla, the county State’s Attorney had received the completed police report less than 3 weeks thereafter. While not quick enough in the minds of blog posters, that does not seem unusually long in the real life timetables of such incidents.
Also in real life, the state’s attorney takes time to consider the evidence supporting a charge brought by the police. Whether of not this state’s attorney’s decision to proceed to jury was altered by the hoopla or not, the day he announced it was going to grand jury was just about perfectly coincident with the elapsed time a non-media sponsored event would have gone to grand jury in most all other situations.
Thanks for explaining. I don’t watch Law & Order by the way.
my response to both your posts.
WTF!! Not pure as the driven snow-that’s the standard!? You have to be f&*^%$g kidding me!
A 17 yr old high school student who was suspended for maybe, maybe smoking marijuana-he was suspended for having a bag with residue in his backpack-that’s a high crime?-marijuana use in high school is very common and it does not mean he was a bad kid. High school kids experiment with many things, we all did.
here is what we know
1.T.Martin had every right to be where he was, and to be free from harassment from a self appointed vigilante.
2. TMartin was walking “home” if you will, not causing a problem.
3. From all accounts he was a good kid, well liked, planning on college. the type of kid who if he were white, white parents wouldn’t mind dating their white daughters.
4. TMartin was stalked by someone with a weapon who was told to stop following him by the police
5. We only have Zimmerman’s account on the physical altercation – he also happens to be the person who wasn’t shot and killed and the one with a firearm, as to what happened.
6. If TMartin did punch Zimmerman, maybe Zimmerman provoked it , we don’t know that either because TMartin is dead! All we have is Zimmerman’s account -what are the odds that he would implicate himself by confessing to provoking the physical confrontation
How about maybe TMartin felt threatened because Zimmerman confronted him and TMartin was defending himself-we don’t know that either because TMartin is dead! We also don’t know if TMartin was going for the weapon because TMartin is dead!
So let me get this straight according to your thinking even though Zimmerman clearly initiated the sequence of tragic events, while being told to stop the sequence by police, Zimmerman is somehow a victim here because maybe he got punched by the person he was stalking and was stalking him with a firearm, therefore justified in killing TM.
there is nothing about this tragic event that should suggest Zimmerman is a victim and everything to suggest he brought this tragedy on himself, on TMartin and all the loved ones of both families.
my response above is to RR posts not yours casualobserver
LiberalJoe
He had more than the one suspension for drugs. Several items of jewelry and a screwdriver were also found in his bag at school.
As to Trayvon being provoked to punch Zimmerman, just as you don’t shoot someone because you feel provoked or in danger, you also don’t punch someone because you are provoked.
A grand jury investigation is forthcoming apparently:
While I’m not as familiar with how Florida’s grand jury system works as casualobserver claims to be, I’m aware that they generally don’t turn on a dime. The investigation will start in a few weeks, which seems to be as fast as it’s going to work.
How many black and white youth have disappeared because some pervert stalked them? What in the world was Trayvon supposed to think? If he did attack first he had every reason to do so.
Whitepaw your post is spot on and you bring up many good points.
The real problem is the media trying to shape the story. No case needs to be tried in the media by a group of reporters who are looking to make a name for themselves by having the most attention grabbing headline. In addition to the Duke case we also see how well that worked out with the Casey Anthony case.
They should have used the current picture of Trayvon where he looked like the 17 year old young man that he was and not a picture when he was 12.
You have to wonder if Zimmerman would have been Black and all other facts remain the same would the media be as outraged?
The kid could have been acting in self defense against Zimmerman. If some strange was following me around town and had a gun on him…I would do everything in my power to fight for my freedom. I think it all comes down to a big misunderstanding between the two that day. Only one walked away alive the guy with the gun.
One other thing… If Zimmerman thought that perhaps Trayvon was a burgler (yes, I know, awful if the only reason he thought Trayvon was suspicious was because of the hoodie and being black), well, then he may very well have suspected that Trayvon might be armed as well.
Zimmerman clearly took his duty to a higher level than he should have… and I predict that he wishes now, that he had stayed in the car.
His version of events seems plausible, and he is still at fault, but if his version is right and is corobborated by an eye witness, then it is highly possible the whole situation was the result of poor judgment on Zimmerman’s part, but not necessarily due to racism.
Zimmerman lived in the gated community with his wife from what I have read (although I have heard Al Sharpton state that Zimmerman did not live there… so am confused). He has clearly been patrolling the area and there have recently been burgleries, and I believe some burglers were caught that were African American (at least from what I have read… but who knows what is true in the media these days).. Trayvon was visiting, so Zimmerman likely did not recognize him… which may have lead to his suspicions. It may be that Zimmerman is not a racist and it was more the events leading up to this that lead to his poor judgment to follow Trayvon.
But instead of waiting for the facts of the case to be revealed, the media has turned it into a racist circus, with the Black Panthers now offering a reward for Zimmerman’s head. Eye for an eye they stated. The tragedy of course is the death of Trayvon who did not deserve to die by any means…. The silver lining is that this has brought to the attention of so many what young black men endure due to racism, even if this particular case may not be hate-crime related at all. The other sad part is how this may, in the end, set racial tensions a step backward.
Speaking of the Black Panthers after they offered the $10K bounty, Spike Lee tweeted Zimmerman’s home address and phone number. The problem is it was the wrong address and a woman lives there. What was Spike thinking? If Zimmerman or anyone else is killed as a result of this he may bear some responsibility.
Are you kidding me? Spike Lee did that?
I tell you what. If they end up with riots down there, the whole things is going to work against Obama’s re-election.
A burgler? you have to be f^&%$#@!g kidding me. Why not say he thought T Martin was a murder suspect, or a serial killer, or a suspected rapist? All the more reason to call the police and have them investigate, not do it yourself as some self appointed vigilante in the wild west. But wait he did call the police and they told him to stop following T Martin.
Jesus God how contorted is everyone getting to somehow rationalize Zimmerman’ “self defense” in the killing of TMartin.
Or that the media is “racializing ” the event.
Ask yourself this- what if T Martin were white and Zimmerman were black-what do you think the media would be doing . Do you think in that scenario Zimmerman -the shooter-would have been allowed to go home or that he would have not have been arrested. You can’t take race out of this simply because of the how criminal justice is administered in the USA.
Also, ask yourselves this- what If TMartin were your son, how would you feel if he was doing nothing wrong, just being a teenage boy going home, but didn’t make it home because of an overzealous firearm carrying self appointed cop.
I choose to wait until the evidence has been presented to make a final judgment in this case. I have repeatedly stated that I think Zimmerman was in the wrong.
The media has already tried and convicted Zimmerman for a hate crime. I just orefer to wait for the evidence to come out before I come to an opinion on this. I am not saying that he is not guilty of a hate crime… just waiting to see how things pan out in our justice system. Sorry if you disagree with me.
I choose to wait until the evidence has been presented to make a final judgment in this case.
In that case, you will make for a rationale human being, but a lousy blogger. Your lead sentence will not get you many blog hits, so you would be better off doing what Taylor Marsh did the first day post-hoopla……state with certainty and impunity……”felonious intent was clearly evident!”
To that point and to the point of your second paragraph, you will recall the DOJ already telegraphed the first time they spoke to this case that they will likely have insufficent evidence to bring a federal hate crime indictment. They did this by reciting all the circumstances that do not qualify as hate crimes under the Federal statute.
“I have repeatedly stated that I think Zimmerman was in the wrong.”
Yes, I believe I recall you stating that…….however, what conclusion your personal moral code leads you to does not always lead to a dispassionate analysis of all the evidence matched up against the wording of the statutes.
Without a preponderance of physical evidence and eyewitness testimony against the accused, the law presumes innocence, no matter how many bloggers personally decide otherwise.
I am an engineer… and I know little of the law. I just type on this blog my perceptions. Thanks for your post.
Thank you for the sanity, causal observer.
If race had nothing to do with this event, why did the cops act like they did? Why didn’t they take the gun from Zimmerman and test for finger prints instead of taking Zimmermans word that the kid was trying to take Zimmermans gun? Why did they do a drug test on Trayvon but not on Zimmerman? Why wasn’t Zimmermans clothes taken and checked for the so called grass stains or blood? Why wasn’t Zimmerman taken to a hospital by the police if as he say’s his nose was broken?
Considering the way the police acted in this case, its hard for me to see how the race of Trayvon wasn’t the deciding factor in how the police handled this whole affair.
This is an argument from ignorance, as in “I can’t think of any other possible explanation, therefore my own explanation must be correct”. This is wrong for a couple of reasons.
First, whatever the facts are, those are the things that matter. Right now, there’s enough that we don’t know to make any reasonable person wonder what happened.
Second, several plausible explanations have appeared in threads at this blog, including “uh-oh”‘s, above. Simple incompetence or fecklessness on the part of the police is also plausible, as is an overly-broad interpretation on their part of the “shoot first” law.
The police will have to explain their actions to the grand jury in a couple of weeks. That’s probably a better time to start making judgments, assuming Florida law allows public access to the transcripts and evidence.
More sanity. Thank you, Cujo.
“The police will have to explain their actions to the grand jury in a couple of weeks.”
I wouldn’t hold your breath. The grand jury will be instructed to consider whether there is sufficient evidence to arraign George Zimmerman on whatever charge(s) the prosecutor decides to bring against him. The evaluation of actions or inactions of the police will be taken up in the review by the FDLE.
Separately, for those of you convinced George Zimmerman should have been arrested or should have been administered a drug test, I will be happy to debate once you make a plain statement of probable cause for either. To save the needless waste of bandwidth, you can assume I will apply the hurdles established in Mallory and Ornelas.
The police will have to produce what evidence they collected, and may be asked why they failed to collect this or that. In any event, I’d expect they are more likely to have an explanation for what they did or failed to do than anyone else. If they’re not asked by the grand jury, perhaps federal investigators will.
So I am ignorant is that it? I would say that maybe you are ignorant when it comes to the Sanford police department. This is not the first time they have had problems when it comes to race. A drunk Sanford police’s kid who has a history of violence sucker punched two black men, one inside a bar and the other outside of the bar, was then picked up and then released at the scene with no charges. If it hadn’t been for someone who recorded it and put it on you tube, this would have been brushed under the rug. Once again it took the public outrage to get justice in that case, and in the end the Sanford police chief was fired. Over the years there have been racial profiling charge leveled against the Sanford police department, and for people of color the Sanford police have the reputation of not being friendly.
You know, the whole reason that blue type exists is that you can click on it and see what it is the person who made the statement is talking about. In this case, “argument from ignorance” is a formal term for the kind of logic error you are making.
If you’re just kidding around, sorry, but it looks like you’re not.
I left out one word there, because without that one word, I’d assume that this was nothing more than police covering up for each other, which is a rather common phenomenon, regardless of the ethnic histories of the police and their victims.
This, by the way, would count as “fecklessness” in the possible explanations I mentioned earlier.
Now, if there was a history in this department of usually arresting their children when they assault people from one ethnic group and a similarly established history of not doing it when the victims are from a different ethnic group, then you might have a point here. One data point, however, does not establish a pattern.
@Liberal Joe, the media will try and convict someone and shape the story to make the victim either white or black depending on what will be the better headline. Many “journalists” remember the “lucky” few who made a name for themselves during the O Jay case. Don’t think they are all concerned for Trayvon and his family.
Ask yourself if the Duke Lacrosse team was a Black basketball team and the stripper white if the media would have treated the story the same. I say yes because they could rile people up because of race.
There is no reason to be angry because some are not quick to jump in the media circus and would rather wait for the evidence.
If Trayvon were my son I would likely be doing exactly the same thing his parents are doing. Allow the media exploit my child’s horrible death in order to give me a platform to force an examination of the evidence in a poorly handled case. Unfortunately this seems to be the only way to get it done at times. His parents know that if Zimmerman were black they would not be receiving this type of media support. I am sure they were also advised by Rev Al and others that their son’s background would also be examined. Sadly it is how the game is played.
I am really surprised the media is silent regarding the New Black Panther Party’s bounty on Zimmerman’s head. They said the bounty will soon be $1 Million due to celebrity donations.
So now we have cases tried in the media and the sentence to be carried out by the celebrity elite?
As the proud father of an African-American boy, I want to thank the commenters for pulling the scales off my eyes. I used to think that some things were incontrovertible, but no more. Mine eyes have seen the darkness!
These are the facts that no one in their right mind should be contesting:
- There were no objective facts to arouse Zimmerman’s suspicion that Treyvon was doing anything untoward;
- You can hear Zimmerman say “fucking coon” under his breath. CNN cleaned up the audio and played it last night. There is no way that is a hard “g.” It is a hard “c.” So please spare me the “race card” bullshit.
- Zimmerman was explicitly told not to continue to pursue Treyvon – he refused to stand down. In fact, he indicates his state of mind: “They always get away with it.” And his actions demonstrate his adamance that Treyvon not “get away with it.”
- Zimmerman then gets out of his car – and this is the critical point – WITH HIS GUN ON HIM, to continue looking for Treyvon.
What follows next is murky, admittedly. But for purposes of the discussion, let’s accept Zimmerman’s account as the unvarnished truth. After he gets out of his car with his gun,Treyvon confronts him, asks why he’s following him, strikes him, they struggle, and Treyvon winds up dead.
So what is it you are trying to say? Are you seriously contending that a young black man, guilty of doing nothing but wearing a hoodlie and walking with a bag of Skittles and a soda, had it coming to him when he was pursued, on car and on foot, by a man with a gun? What the hell is Treyvon supposed to do? Run away? Well, he did that, and Zimmerman still kept after him, WITH HIS GUN. Even if Zimmerman’s account is correct, and Treyvon accosted HIM, isn’t that his right? Or does “stand your ground” not apply to people like Treyvon? If it does, this would seem to be the textbook example of it. For Treyvon, that is, not Zimmerman.
A lot remains to be sorted out. I for one readily concede that murder charges may be inappropriate, especially if Zimmerman’s account turns out to be accurate. But that does not exclude the possibility of a lesser charge, such as reckless endangerment. Because we cannot as a society abide a state of affairs that says people like Zimmerman can stalk innocent people with guns, then plead self-defense when their irresponsible actions lead to tragic but predictable results.
Oh yeah, one last thing. Bringing up the New Black Panther Party is an exercise in deflection, just like the bullshit marijuana argument. I’m sure that, were I visit white supremacist websites, I would find lots of folks idolizing Zimmerman. Zimmerman is not any more (or less) culpable because of that fact, any more than Treyvon is any less (or more) innocent because the NBPP idiots have taken up his cause.
But again, thank you so very much for the public service. I will raise my boy accordingly. Color me disgusted, and absolutely done with this topic. And now I will go and take a bath.
You rearranged the timeline. Why did you do that?
Don’t think I did, but I’m happy for you to elaborate.
Hi ogenec — This is such a sensitive issue, I see that. Nothing makes me think that Trayvon deserved to die at all…
I guess I just don’t understand why we can’t wait for all evidence to come out before rendering judgment of the actual events (if we ever find out what truly occurred).
The slur on the 911 tapes… they need to be analyzed by someone other than the media before any conclusion is made. I am not claiming that I believe there was no slur… I just prefer to wait for the actual evidence. I am so tired of the media convicting people before a trial, and also am tired of the media influencing politics, etc.
I see by some of the posts over the last few days that some people sure live in a different world then I do. I would guess a lot of you have had little contact with the police in your life. In the world I have grown up in I have come into contact quite a bit with law enforcement, and being a biker and club member for years I know a little about profiling and harassment. From my world I know if Mr. Zimmerman had been black and Trayvon had been white Zimmerman would have been arrested on the spot, the gun would have been taken away and Mr. Zimmerman would have been charged with at least discharging a firearm in public.
Before everybody jumps all over me, I’m not saying all cops are bad, but what is bad is the way the system works for people of color and anyone else that law enforcement see’s as undesirable’s.
Also ogenec, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Angels81, you are right… I have little experience with the police, except when they have helped me. So I am the first to admit that I do not understand.
But I have received a few tickets!
angels, thank you. and thank you for being one of the few voices of reality in here.
Ogenec,
CNN has changed their story about the slur? Earlier they reported that it could not be determined what he said. This is exactly why the media is not equipped to try this case.
Since I brought up the NBPP I will address it. When you have a major celebrity tweet to hundreds of thousands of people the home address of a man with a $10,000 bounty on his head in a racial charged case being covered 24/7 by the media I think that is news. And further the NBPP announced that with growing celebrity donations they will soon reach $1 Million.
Spike tweeted the wrong address and a woman lives there!
Twitter is not a KKK site. It is a communication tool is used by millions of people worldwide. What Spike did was irresponsible and dangerous and the silence in the media is deafening.
I never stated that the New Black Panther Party had anything to do with Trayvon. Only Spike and the media and I stand by what I said.
Sasha, I agree with you to this extent – this case should not be tried in the media. Or anywhere else for that matter. But there is no escaping the fact that, but for the media glare, this incident would not have received the scrutiny it is now getting. I think that is the proper province of the 4th estate – to ask questions, not necessarily to provide answers.
CNN is not changing its story, as far as I can tell. They may have earlier indicated that you could not make out the slur. They still are not contending you can; they leave it up to the viewer to decide. But I personally heard them slow it down, drop the bass frequencies so you could isolate his words better, and play it back 10 times. And the word “coon” is uttered, clear as a bell.
Now for the red herring. I never accused of you of what you seem to think I accused you of. If you want to call out Spike and the NBPP, have at it. I think their behavior is detestable. But I’m going to keep my eye on the birdie. An innocent young black man was killed by a wannabe cop determined not to let these “fucking coons get away with it.” Solve THAT problem, and the Spike/Sharpton/NBPP problem goes vamoose. Everything else is commentary.
Thanks for responding ogenec.
I just think there is a reason the media has latched onto this particular story at this particular time and in this particular way. Time will tell.
I didn’t feel as if you accused me of anything regarding the NBPP. As far as the New Black Panther Party, that story seems to be growing rather than going away. The elderly woman and her husband who live at the wrong address Spike tweeted had to move out of their home for their safety.