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With Clinton in Forefront, Benghazi is Back

With Clinton and 2016 in the spotlight, Republicans rush to cement Benghazi in the public's mind, with the "60 Minutes" report adding fuel to their efforts.

With Clinton and 2016 in the spotlight, Republicans rush to cement Benghazi in the public’s mind, with the “60 Minutes” report adding fuel to their efforts.

We have learned there were two Delta Force operators who fought at the Annex and they’ve since been awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and the Navy Cross — two of the military’s highest honors. The Americans who rushed to help that night went without asking for permission and the lingering question is why no larger military response ever crossed the border into Libya — something Greg Hicks realized wasn’t going to happen just an hour into the attack. – Lara Logan, “60 Minutes”

ON MSNBC today a female Republican strategist bluntly stated that with Hillary Clinton at the top of the Democratic 2016 list, you bet Republicans are going to drum Benghazi into the public’s awareness, because the GOP would be crazy not to capitalize on what happened in Benghazi, Libya. Lara Logan of “60 Minutes” interviewed a former British soldier using the pseudonym Morgan Jones last night, a man who saw what went down on 9/11/12.

On Monday in an interview of Fox News channel, Rep. Lindsey Graham lauded Rep. Darrell Issa’s witch hunt hearings, then dropped his own political plum in the efforts to keep Benghazi alive so they can use it against Clinton, should she run in 2016. This comes after holding the confirmations of John Brennan and Chuck Hagel hostage, defaming Susan Rice along the way.

GRAHAM: So I am calling for a joint select committee. But for God’s sake, let the House have a select committee where you get three or four committees together to look at this situation as one unit rather than stove piping. And where are the survivors? 14 months later, Steve, the survivors, the people who survived the attack in Benghazi, have not been made available to the U.S. congress for oversight purposes. I’m going to block every appointment in the United States Senate until the survivors are being made available to the Congress. I’m tired of hearing from people on TV and reading about stuff in books. [Think Progress]

This isn’t about information, it’s purely political, and has absolutely nothing to do with changing State Department policy on security or the basic need to understand the choices made by foreign service soldiers like Christopher Stevens, who put himself in harm’s way to be in the thick of Libyan life. Choosing to move from Tripoli to Benghazi, as the Libyan government warned not to have a big foot print in Benghazi, the colliding priorities impossible to ignore if you understand the very nature of diplomacy in far flung and very dangerous places.

What happens in Benghazi goes back to the national security policy decision to surgically strike Libya and take out Ghadafi, with the entire Administration involved in what they saw as a doable humanitarian mission. The outcome in Libya is one reason Obama pulled back from Syria, when the will in the U.S. and our allies stalled for such heroics, even with clear evidence that war crimes are being committed with impunity by Bashar al-Assad through the use of chemical weapons. The decision further defines the U.S. policy of “doable” intervention. This change in policy mood has led to a fracturing of U.S. – Saudi relations.

Lara Logan on “60 Minutes,” interviewing Morgan Jones, is the latest opportunity on Benghazi that Republican intend to exploit for political purposes. An excerpt from Sunday night’s interview:

[...] Lara Logan: And you watched as they–

Andy Wood: As they did each one of those.

Lara Logan: –attacked the Red Cross and the British mission. And the only ones left–

Andy Wood: Were us. They made good on two out of the three promises. It was a matter of time till they captured the third one.

Lara Logan: And Washington was aware of that?

Andy Wood: They knew we monitored it. We included that in our reports to both State Department and DOD.

Andy Wood told us he raised his concerns directly with Amb. Stevens three months before the U.S. compound was overrun.

Andy Wood: I made it known in a country team meeting, “You are gonna get attacked. You are gonna get attacked in Benghazi. It’s gonna happen. You need to change your security profile.”

Lara Logan: Shut down–

Andy Wood: Shut down–

Lara Logan: –the special mission–

Andy Wood: –”Shut down operations. Move out temporarily. Ch– or change locations within the city. Do something to break up the profile because you are being targeted. They are– they are– they are watching you. The attack cycle is such that they’re in the final planning stages.”

Lara Logan: Wait a minute, you said, “They’re in the final planning stages of an attack on the American mission in Benghazi”?

Andy Wood: It was apparent to me that that was the case. Reading, reading all these other, ah, attacks that were occurring, I could see what they were staging up to, it was, it was obvious.

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17 Responses to With Clinton in Forefront, Benghazi is Back

  1. mjsmith October 28, 2013 at 4:54 pm #

    I wonder if it would be a better idea to have Susan Rice testify and have all of the information revealed? I do not see any advantage in keeping everything covered up. Whenever I hear of a “spontaneous peaceful protest,” I know it is part of a lie. Whenever I hear “this is the first I heard of it.” I know that is a lie too. Obama has a responsibility to stop hiding information and start telling the truth. President Obama also has an obligation to have the people who work for him to tell the truth. Maybe I am expecting too much. I am willing to bet that the political damage of not saying anything and attacking the people who are responsible for investigating the circumstances is far less than telling the truth.

    • Ga6thDem October 29, 2013 at 8:56 am #

      The whole Benghazi thing is nothing more than a fleece the rubes operation. If the GOP was so concerned about it they would take Issa off of “investigating” but they continue to let that clown have his circus so nobody listens to them anymore.

  2. secularhumanizinevoluter October 28, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

    “I wonder if it would be a better idea to have Susan Rice testify and have all of the information revealed? I do not see any advantage in keeping everything covered up.”

    So far, no one has poresented any evidence anything was “covered up”.

    ” Whenever I hear of a “spontaneous peaceful protest,” I know it is part of a lie. Whenever I hear “this is the first I heard of it.” I know that is a lie too.”

    Whenever I hear or read more of these boiler plate made of whole cloth falsehoods I know I am reading or hearing a partisan political hack pushing propaganda.

    ” Obama has a responsibility to stop hiding information and start telling the truth.”

    The repugnantklan and teabaggers have a responsibility to stop lieing about what they are trying to do and using the powers of the House of Reps as a vehicle to launch baseless smear campaigns against Hillary Clinton and President Obama.

    ” President Obama also has an obligation to have the people who work for him to tell the truth.”

    As they have. The repugnantklan,teabaggers have a responsibility to finally START telling the truth….maybe I am expecting to much.

    ” Maybe I am expecting too much. I am willing to bet that the political damage of not saying anything and attacking the people who are responsible for investigating the circumstances is far less than telling the truth.”

    If there were any people actually investigating anything…but there isn’t…there is only that idiot Issa and his monkey court circuse. The hoped for political damage remains to be seen. Folks saw through the lies and shennanigans of the repug,baggers on the shutdown….they saw the reality of the politicol circus of the last series of show trials put on by theser hacks….let’s see.

    • mjsmith October 28, 2013 at 6:29 pm #

      Well secular, if questions were answered I would agree with you. The fact that so many questions are blatantly unanswered shows clear evidence of a cover up.

      • secularhumanizinevoluter October 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm #

        Thery’ve been answered….the Clinton and Obama derangement sydrome crowd simple refuse to hear or acknowledge them. How about starting with the repug/baggers in the House cutting embassy defense moneies?

    • cjoblak@hotmail.com October 29, 2013 at 5:48 pm #

      What planet are you from Sucular? The planet of racism and bigotry?

      • Sandmann October 29, 2013 at 6:58 pm #

        Mr. Projection

  3. Taylor Marsh October 28, 2013 at 10:25 pm #

    Yeah, there’s no “cover up,” just a horrible foreign service tragedy that happened in a country the US was attempting to help make progress.

    • ladywalker68 October 29, 2013 at 1:37 am #

      You nailed it, Taylor.

    • spincitysd October 29, 2013 at 5:01 am #

      The tragedy goes much deeper than that. There was no real thought into what the word “doable” meant. The ad hoc, by the seat of the pants, response to the very real threat of genocide was poorly thought out and poorly executed. No real consideration was given to what happened after Gaddafi took a dirt nap.

      It was an all muscle and no brains response that failed to consider the vacuum that would be left behind when the regime fell. Simply put Libya had no real civil society or civil structures for the two generations of Mad Muammar’s despotic rule.

      So what we have now is unadorned chaos, a chaos we helped to create via our “look Ma, no hands” air campaign and the use of questionable militia units. Add to that our inexplicable refusal to offer any aide to the Syrian people who were going through a similar meat grinder and you have a foreign policy rushing right past incoherence and straight into gross incompetence.

      To offer the lame response that Republicans would have been even worse is cold comfort. We are still operating under a Wilsonian paradigm that made perfect sense in WWII, was long in the tooth and often counterproductive during the Cold War and is now totally irrelevant in the 21st Century. In other words blowing stuff up creates more problems than it solves in foreign affairs.

      Interventionism was, is, and always will be very dangerous proposition with many unintended consequences. The very act of intervening can and will place you in a position where you would never choose to be. It will force you to take risks to salvage a bad situation– to save face. Those risks will then go south in a hurry precisely because you are unable and unwilling to take a full accounting of them.

      Team Obama took a risk in Benghazi, a risk they were unwilling to fully appreciate because the Libyan adventure was going south in a hurry. They were hoping against hope that their point-man could turn it around. And when it became manifestly clear that he could not, that the situation on the ground was every bit as bad as the gloom-and-doomers were advertising, they froze. A negative feedback loop of despondency is the most likely scenario. Fearing that anything they would do would make the situation worse, they chose to do nothing. And by “chose” I mean Obama went turtle, pulled his head, arms, and legs into his shell and hung an “do not disturb” sign outside said shell. Deer in the headlights moment I’m afraid. Froze quicker than a strawberry placed in dry ice.

      My greatest fear is that HRC will take the wrong lesson from the Libyan fiasco. She has an unfortunate propensity to overcompensate for her sex and her party affiliation by going in to full Jane (of Tarzan fame) yell. I can see her charging in where Angels fear to tread and then doubling down with things that go boom in the night at the first sign of trouble. She will do this to prove her bona fides as National Security stalwart. The siren call of the Iron Lady, Maggie Thatcher could be just too hard to resist.

      The real lesson of Libya, that you never, ever involve your nation in the Civil War of another nation, will be lost. Never ever get involved Ms. Marsh ; I do not say this as a peace, love and granola hippie but as a Man who has read far too many history books for normal functioning. Iron Law of History Ms. Marsh : Civil Wars, a very bad idea; getting involved in another nation’s civil war, an incredibly bad idea.

      • secularhumanizinevoluter October 29, 2013 at 5:38 am #

        “The real lesson of Libya, that you never, ever involve your nation in the Civil War of another nation, will be lost. Never ever get involved Ms. Marsh ; I do not say this as a peace, love and granola hippie but as a Man who has read far too many history books for normal functioning. Iron Law of History Ms. Marsh : Civil Wars, a very bad idea; getting involved in another nation’s civil war, an incredibly bad idea.”

        Now if only the French had heeded your advice back in the late 1700s.

    • cjoblak@hotmail.com October 29, 2013 at 5:48 pm #

      Bullshit, there was a cover up.

      • cjoblak@hotmail.com October 29, 2013 at 5:49 pm #

        “But what difference does it make? ” the goddess screeches!

        • Ga6thDem October 29, 2013 at 6:32 pm #

          I’m glad that the fleece the rubes operation seems to be working on you. I’m sure the GOP will be hitting you up for more money. Really I have heard this talking point so much it’s getting to the point where it’s downright hysterical.

        • secularhumanizinevoluter October 31, 2013 at 8:51 pm #

          In a sick sortta way it is fun watching the CDS sufferers spew and sputter. But like I said…in a sick sortta way.

  4. Taylor Marsh October 30, 2013 at 10:57 am #

    Yeah, GA6thDem, what is the “cover up” that Rep. Darrell Issa couldn’t uncover???

    This is Whitewater & the witch hunt all over again, only this time the critics are using dead Americans to smear Clinton, instead of Vince Foster.

    • secularhumanizinevoluter October 31, 2013 at 8:51 pm #

      Ahhhh….last time I checked Vince was an American.

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