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Top Story — New York Times: Obama to Announce 19 Separate Actions on Gun Safety **Updated** [Video]

President Obama will unveil his gun violence proposals at 11:45 a.m. Wednesday at the White House, according to people who have been briefed on the event. [Politico]

THE POWER of the presidency is about to be exercised by Barack Obama.

He’ll collide with right wing extremists in the Congress on gun safety, as well as the N.R.A., which still compose a minority of the American people. It will depend on the American majority in favor of gun safety to get involved and send these people a message.

From the New York Times, President Obama intends to deliver on what he promised in his press conference on Monday.

Lawmakers and other officials said that the president could use a public event as soon as Wednesday to signal his intention to engage in the biggest Congressional fight over guns in nearly two decades, focusing on the heightened background checks and including efforts to ban assault weapons and their high-capacity clips. But given the difficulty of pushing new rules through a bitterly divided Congress, Mr. Obama will also promise to act on his own to reduce gun violence wherever possible.

Actions the president could take on his own are likely to include imposing new limits on guns imported from overseas, compelling federal agencies to improve sharing of mental health records and directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct research on gun violence, according to those briefed on the effort.

White House aides believe Mr. Obama can also ratchet up enforcement of existing laws, including tougher prosecution of people who lie on their background checks.

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25 Responses to Top Story — New York Times: Obama to Announce 19 Separate Actions on Gun Safety **Updated** [Video]

  1. spincitysd January 15, 2013 at 12:10 am #

    OK, let’s see if Mr. Cave has any real guts for this. You’re absolutely right Taylor, the TEA Party right is going to go absolutely bonkers over this. The Ted Nugget crowd will make a mad rush to buy even more guns and ammo. Faux News will be comparing Obama to Hitler–again. It will be a the mother of all political Donnybrooks.

    I see the clock running out on Congressional action fairly quickly unless previously uninvolved citizens do get involve. The Republicans will do all in their power to burry gun legislation in the fog of the debt debate. Can we, as a people, walk and chew gum at the same time? If not, gun control is deader than a goldfish in room full of cats.

  2. Joyce Arnold January 15, 2013 at 8:25 am #

    As both of you — Taylor and spincity — say, it will take the involvement of people supporting the changes for this, or at least some of what Obama will propose, to happen. That will be necessary both to keep Obama from acting in his “Mr. Cave” (thanks, spincity) role, and to provide the cover members of Congress will require for them to actually take needed actions.

  3. mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    I heard there is going to be a plan to allow dangerous criminals to buy guns and then we are going to follow where the guns go via transmitters from Radio Shack. Genius!

    • angels81 January 15, 2013 at 10:53 am #

      I assume you are making a funny, but you just never know what the loonies will believe. I heard that Obama was going to wear his superman costume and use his x-ray vision and then melt all the guns, and then take over the world.

      • mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 11:28 am #

        It would be funny, except for the fact that this already happened and many people died as a result. I wish we knew what really happened. Holder was finally forced to testify and then President Obama claimed Executive Privilage over the entire matter.

        • angels81 January 15, 2013 at 11:44 am #

          Let me guess, you are talking about the fast and furious plan which was done by bush, and shut down by Obama?

          Now that we’ve got that straight, lets talk about your new fantasy about letting criminals by guns and track them with radio shack transmitters. Which loony did you get that from? How about giving us a link to this stellar news, that only wing nuts seem to have heard.

          • mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

            Angels81 – It helps to know what the heck you are talking about. Here is a link from the LA Times. I think they speak your language. Leave it to a blind follower to still blame Bush over things that happened when he was no longer President.

            “Email traffic and U.S. congressional testimony by ATF agents and others make clear that American officials purposefully concealed from Mexico’s government details of the operation, launched in November 2009 by the ATF field offices in Arizona and New Mexico.

            In March 2010, with a growing number of guns lost or showing up at crime scenes in Mexico, ATF officials convened an “emergency briefing” to figure out a way to shut down Fast and Furious. Instead, they decided to keep it going and continue to leave Mexico out of the loop.”

            This is President Obama and his version of “gun safety.” If you are going to call me names or make fun of large segments of the USA population, first know what the hell you are talking about! Just a suggestion I don’t expect you to use.

          • angels81 January 15, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

            First off I never said that Obama administration wasn’t also at fault over the fast and furious program that was started under the Bush administration. This post isn’t about fast and furious, its about what Obama might do concerning gun violence now. I’m still waiting for you to give a link to this story of yours that Obama is going to sell guns to criminals and then track them with Radio Shack transmitters.

            Like I said, either you were making a joke, which wasn’t clear, or you are serious in which case, give us a link to this story.

          • spincitysd January 15, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

            Oh brother, Fast and Furious again? That dog won’t hunt. It was a Bush era cock-up continued by Obama for reasons of bureaucratic inertia. It’s major failures can be chalked up piss poor planning and gun laws that were riddled with exemptions and holes. Neither president covered himself with glory and both came out looking like fools.

            Don’t get me started on the partisan witch hunt and right-wing noise machine trying to gin up outrage on Fast and Furious.

            It’s a typical government cock-up with typical government ass-covering and the typical pointless sturm und drang coming from the typical sources.

          • mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

            “This post isn’t about fast and furious, its about what Obama might do concerning gun violence now”

            You are right Angels81. I think looking at his past actions on this issue is an accurate indicator of what President Obama is getting ready to do right now – THE WRONG THING!

            Just to let you know the assault weapons law in Connecticut.


            By law, it is illegal for anyone to (1) possess assault weapons, unless he or she possessed the weapon before October 1, 1993, registered it with DPS before October 1, 1994, and received a DPS certificate of

            possession for it; or (2) sell, transfer, distribute, or transport assault weapons (CGS § 53-202b). (The definition of assault weapons is highly technical; see CGS § 53-202a.)

            The law (1) exempts from the assault weapon ban law enforcement officers, correction officials, and military and naval personnel discharging their official duties and (2) allows estate executors and administrators to possess registered estate weapons under probate court orders (CGS § 53-202c). Also, anyone, except a member of the military, who moves into Connecticut with a lawful assault weapon has 90 days to (1) render it permanently inoperable, (2) sell it to a licensed gun dealer, or (3) take it out of state. Members of the military who move to Connecticut, after October 1, 1994, have 90 days to get a certificate of possession for any legally possessed assault weapon (CGS §§ 53-202d(b)).

          • angels81 January 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm #

            Still keep dodging around your original statement by changing the subject. Can’t you back up your statement? Can’t you show us a link to your statement? I guess you just made it up to attack the President. kind like Fox news.

      • mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 3:57 pm #

        Here is your link. I thought you knew this part of the story. It seems that all you know about “fast and furious” Angels81 is that it started under Bush.

        “In all, 2,000 guns – including AK-47s and .50-caliber rifles – and 10,000 or more rounds of ammunition are estimated to have “walked” into the hands of Mexican drug lords, said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the committee chairman, in his opening statement.

        The ATF was created as “a unique law enforcement agency that Americans could trust to reduce the illegal transfer of guns into the hands of criminals,” said Issa. “Today’s hearing concerns a breach of that trust that has left countless innocent Mexican citizens and at least one federal Border Patrol agent dead.”

        The three agents – who are still employed by the ATF – said they did not understand how the operation could ever possibly be successful.

        In his written testimony, Forcelli described the Fast and Furious techniques are “delusional.” Casa said he had never heard of letting guns walk until he got to Phoenix, and Forcelli estimated the guns ended up in Mexico twice as often as they stayed in the United States.

        The only technology the bureau had to track guns were serial numbers and cooperation of gun dealers in Phoenix. No GPS tracking was available from the bureau.

        Forcelli even tried unsuccessfully to make his own GPS tracking bug for guns by rigging up gadgets bought at Radio Shack, he told the committee.

        Casa said he was told by supervisors to stand down in several cases when he would have otherwise made an arrest in an illegal gun deal. Any questions about the operation were dismissed by supervisors, and agents asking the questions were told they did not understand the strategy, said all three men.

        “Someone needs to step up and say, ‘We made a mistake,’” Forcelli said.

        He said he is proud of his work in the bureau, but wanted the truth revealed in this case, and for those responsible in leadership positions to be held accountable.

        Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., called the findings about the ATF “bitterly disappointing.”

        • angels81 January 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm #

          Just what I thought, more old news. You where being just a bit dishonest by your post, making it sound like this was something Obama was going to do. You should get a job with Fox news, you’d fit right in.

          • secularhumanizinevoluter January 15, 2013 at 8:57 pm #

            “You where being just a bit dishonest”

          • mjsmith January 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm #

            You asked, I answered. Simple as. You lose. Try learning about what you are talking about first, then talk about it.

          • secularhumanizinevoluter January 16, 2013 at 6:37 pm #

            I LOVE it, some of the commentors here consistantly get their widdle bottoms paddled but whimper…”you lose” as if like their fantasy comments have ANYTHING to do with reality! BWAHAHAHA! …OOOPS…was that rude pointing that out?

        • secularhumanizinevoluter January 15, 2013 at 9:03 pm #

          ““In all, 2,000 guns – including AK-47s and .50-caliber rifles – and 10,000 or more rounds of ammunition are estimated to have “walked” into the hands of Mexican drug lords, said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the committee chairman, in his opening statement.”

          Darrell Issa?!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! The stupid…the stupid…it burns!!

    • secularhumanizinevoluter January 15, 2013 at 6:52 pm #

      Oh…you mean like what that stupid ass monkey Bush did right? Yeah, the stupid program that President Obama’s AG discontinued when he learned about it right?

      • mjsmith January 16, 2013 at 4:24 pm #

        Hey there secular…

  4. jjamele January 15, 2013 at 10:50 am #

    {THE POWER of the presidency is about to be exercised by Barack Obama.}

    1. Well, it’s only been just under four years. Better late than never, I guess.

    2. We’ve heard this before. I think we are all in Wait and See What Happens When the Mike Is Turned Off mode. (All of us except Solo, of course. For Solo, Leadership is All Talk, All the Time, and if you expect Action you are just a Hater of Our Young PresidentTM.)

    • spincitysd January 15, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

      Oh no jjamele Obama has been quite willing to use the power of the presidency to maim, crush and blow up any number of innocent shlubs who have the bad luck to be in the path of his drone strikes. He even managed to murder a U.S. citizen in cold blood and get away with it using his role as commander in Chief. Obama can be quite the blood thirsty barbarian when there are no consequences for such behavior.

      • jjamele January 15, 2013 at 9:26 pm #

        Good points. I guess I was just referring to Obama using the power of the Presidency to actually do some good. You’re right, he has no problem using the blunt instrument option.

  5. DaGoat January 15, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    The 19 possible executive actions are relatively minor and will do little to prevent misuse of guns. Any significant action has to come from congress and not unilaterally from Obama. The 19 actions appear to be Obama emphasizing quantity over quality in an attempt to look like he’s doing something. I always have to laugh at plans to enforce existing laws presented as a new solution – we’re just now going to prosecute people who lied on their background checks? What have you been waiting for?

    The reality is none of this stuff would have changed Newtown. Other than the high-capacity clip restrictions which might have had a small effect, Newtown would still have happened despite everything that is being proposed. Cujo made a good comment a day or two ago about the changes in gun laws being more as inspired by Newtown than as ways to prevent Newtown, which I think is a good way to look at this. In his conference yesterday Obama spoke of “steps that can be taken to make sure that the kinds of violence we saw at Newtown doesn’t happen again”. That leaves him open to criticism since none of these steps will prevent that type of violence. We may as well be honest about this. While a lot of these gun control steps are good things to do, they should not be portrayed as steps that will prevent a Newtown type of massacre.

    • mjsmith January 15, 2013 at 2:25 pm #

      DaGoat – Very well said!

  6. angels81 January 15, 2013 at 11:22 pm #

    New York leads the way with toughest gun laws in the nation. I’m sure the wing nuts heads are exploding right now. I applaud the politicians of the state of New York for standing up to the NRA and the crazies and doing the right thing.

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