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Poll: 60% of Americans Oppose what Obama is Proposing for Social Security in Debt Deal

President Barack Obama talks with Vice President Joe Biden in the Oval Office, Dec. 14, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

Most Americans oppose slashing spending on Medicaid and the military, as well as raising the age for Medicare eligibility and slowing the increase of Social Security benefits, all of which appear to be on the table in negotiations. Majorities call each of these items “unacceptable.” – Poll: Most want ‘fiscal cliff’ compromise but oppose cuts that may be part of deal

PRESIDENT OBAMA used the voters’ outrage against conservative economics to get re-elected in 2012. But he’s ignoring what the public said to implant his conservative fiscal compromises during the fiscal cliff scheme negotiations.

So, President Obama wins an election that he ran on raising taxes for the top 2%, which showed absolutely no public appetite for putting entitlements on the table. But then he gets in the deal negotiations and starts bargaining Social Security, of all programs to start selling off.

In order to strike a budget deal that avoids the so-called “fiscal cliff”, would you accept changing the way Social Security benefits are calculated so that benefits increase at a slower rate than they do now or is this something you would find unacceptable? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

Accept 36%
Unacceptable 60%

There is no public appetite for the compromises Obama is proposing and no mandate from the people to do it.

What was the point on winning the election?

Oh, right, it was about Barack Obama, but had absolutely nothing to do with policy prescriptions that have made the Democratic Party what it has always been.

If these entitlement cuts are agreed upon, and if Democrats in Congress go along, after this is over people should understand that Barack Obama has changed the very essence of what it means to be a Democrat.

It’s not hard to see that if Social Security cuts are begun under President Obama, because it won’t be the last we’ll see, it would have been better if Republicans would have won in November and been the ones to offer up entitlement cuts. That way the Democratic Party could have found its soul once again by taking the Republican middle class marauders on in a political assault that would have made heroes out of progressives, instead of showing them out as fools for ever trusting Obama in the first place.

No one can say I didn’t warn you.

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16 Responses to Poll: 60% of Americans Oppose what Obama is Proposing for Social Security in Debt Deal

  1. fangio December 18, 2012 at 11:52 am #

    Funny how you don’t hear a word out of this administration about raising the cap. Funny how you don’t hear it from democrats in general. All those people collecting benefits who barely pay into it. You see it mentioned here and there but where is the movement, where is the concerted effort to make democrats embrace raising the cap. It’s almost like the ” cone of silence. ” ” What!.. What did you say? “

  2. Taylor Marsh December 18, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    Considering the leader of the Democratic Party is willing to give cuts to Republicans on Social Security, what makes you think anyone in the party who wants to keep her/his job would stand on that limb?

    Progressives can’t even get the leaders of their party to fight to maintain entitlements! How are they going to get a massive movement on raising the cap??????????

    There’s absolutely no evidence or will for Republicans to do so, which means it’s a waste of precious time right now.

    • fangio December 18, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

      It was a sarcastic comment.

      • Taylor Marsh December 18, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

        Lathered in making the point about the cap, which is a good one that screamed to be addressed.

  3. jjamele December 18, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    In a country where wages have been stagnant for twenty years, where more and more people have to use credit cards to buy groceries, and where the very idea of “pensions” is going extinct, it’s not surprising that people are unwilling to back politicians who are “looking at” changing Social Security benefits. It wasn’t intended to be a pension plan, but that’s what it’s become, through no fault of the poor and middle class.

    I manage to invest $800 a month through my school and a Roth IRA. Even if the market doesn’t collapse two or three more times before I hit retirement age, I’ll still need Social Security to keep up with the rising cost of living. Half of current workers can save NOTHING. What is to become of them? What can they look forward to after decades of hard work? Grinding poverty, including inadequate food, inadequate heat, inadequate shelter, and inadequate medical care?

    If that’s the case, why do we continue to expect them to cooperate in a system that works against them rather than for them?

  4. TPAZ December 18, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

    The left should prepare to reach out to the tea party and join forces to block this corporate sweetheart agreement between John Boehner and Barack Obama. The more money the rich steals from the middle-class and working class the higher the stock market goes.

    • Taylor Marsh December 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

      Who the f*#! is “the left”?

      Answer: THERE. ISN’T. ONE.

      • TPAZ December 18, 2012 at 4:53 pm #

        I guess that makes me a dreamer.

  5. Joyce Arnold December 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    How long has it been since the Democratic party has actually been the ‘traditional” party of liberal, or at least progressive, character?

  6. mjsmith December 18, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    Only a strong leader can cut spending. If Obama has a plan to really cut spending, that would be great. Taxes are going up.Closing loopholes, raising taxes, and spending cuts along with a more efficient Government is what is required. Anything less than this will not solve the problem. Raising the debt ceiling will just make the issue that we have now much worse. I am in favor of lowering the debt ceiling.

    • Cujo359 December 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

      “Only a strong leader can cut spending.”

      Hogwash. The rich and powerful want spending cuts. Doing what the rich and powerful want isn’t being strong. Being strong is working for the poor and anyone else who can’t reward your efforts. Doing what the powerful want, despite the fact that it’s wrong for the country, is the sign of a weak leader, or a feckless one. I think Obama is the latter, but he’s definitely one of those two.

      “Closing loopholes, raising taxes, and spending cuts along with a more efficient Government is what is required.”

      Cutting taxes is part of what got us to a “fiscal cliff”. It demonstrably has not helped the economy. Right now, it’s counter-productive, because the private sector of the economy isn’t strong enough to create jobs. The economists who saw the crash coming, and the reasons that crash was coming, are the ones who say that the last thing we need right now is a cut in government spending. The ones who tell us the government is spending too much are the ones who were telling us everything was fine just before the crash. Who should we be listening to now?

      “Anything less than this will not solve the problem.”

      If the problem is a growing economy that employs people in good jobs, then you’re right. Cut taxes and spending. We won’t have it. Otherwise, …, nevermind.

      • mjsmith December 18, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

        Cujo – I did not say cut taxes

        • Cujo359 December 18, 2012 at 9:16 pm #

          Yes, but cutting them had no measurable effect on the economy. Raising them back to that same level won’t, either. Changing tax levels does have some effect, particularly if the changes are concentrated in the area that best alters our fiscal position (right now, that means lowering them for the poor and middle class) can have an effect if targeted correctly, but no more than spending that raises employment, and usually less.

          In short, giving the rich tax breaks did not work to stimulate the economy. That’s what happened during the W. Bush Administration – the bulk of the money went to the rich. Changing things back to the way they were won’t affect things, either. There is no problem with money supply – there’s a problem with job supply. It’s a false choice, but if it comes down to raising taxes to where they were before 2001, or cutting spending, only an idiot would cut spending.

          Since it is a false choice, only an idiot would cut spending anyway, assuming he wasn’t in a position to profit from that spending cut.

  7. Uh-oh December 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    Obama has signaled all along that he WANTS to do this–another big reason why he didn’t get my vote. He is so bought and paid for!

  8. jinbaltimore December 18, 2012 at 10:20 pm #

    Still not getting how making cuts to SS is not stealing. It IS. In a way not done before by our government. Agree with Uh-oh; yet another reason he never got my vote.

  9. fangio December 18, 2012 at 11:48 pm #

    He did not get my vote either. It was plain to see what he was, he really didn’t try to hide it during the past four years. Anyone who did vote for him will be sorry, but so will we. Earlier in this thread I mentioned raising the cap on social security. If there really was anything wrong with the system then raising the cap is the most efficient way to solve it. The additional revenue would come from the very people who can afford it the most, the same people who have taken everything and given back nothing.

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