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Fox Executives Respond About Karl Rove’s Role on Election Night

What role was Karl Rove playing when he heatedly contradicted Fox News? – New York Times

THIS IS the question that reverberates after what played out on the evening of Election Day.

Chris Wallace kicked it off by saying he’d talked with the Romney campaign, who was challenging the results of Ohio and the calling of the presidency for Obama. But quickly afterward, Wallace disappeared and Rove took center stage.

Megyn Kelly attempted to wrestle Rove back to reality, but he was having none of it, the whole sorry scene quite a story.

Rove’s reaction was not to move, so Kelly had to, going backstage to question the statisticians at Fox responsible for making the call.

Why did Karl Rove think his role during the broadcast was to supersede that of the news anchors?

Why did Karl Rove believe he had the power to overrule the Fox News channel statisticians?

Rove was playing out in the open the same role that was played behind the scenes in 2000 by a Bush relative who began the frightful fight that would eventually throw the 2000 election to the Supreme Court, where it didn’t belong. He can rebut that it was about networks calling Florida for Gore, but the real reason revolved around him holding off a loss.

Roger Ailes is at the top of this debacle.

It was clear that Karl Rove felt he held the power to sit center screen and command the narrative that President Obama hadn’t really won Ohio or the presidency. His goal to make Obama’s win illegitimate, thus sowing the seeds of more discontent and disrespect on the way to manifesting more dysfunction, his ultimate goal.

Today in the New York Times Fox News executives tell their side of the story.

Mr. Rove’s deep connections to Republican politics are part of the reason that Fox News put him on the air on Tuesday night to rebut what its own team of analysts had concluded.

“The first thing that came to my mind, the first thing burned in everyone’s mind, is Florida 2000,” said Michael Clemente, the Fox News executive vice president for news. “And the minute you hear, ‘Hold the phone,’ you sort of get that oh-my-goodness feeling.”

So Mr. Clemente, who was one floor up in the control room, decided with his team of producers to allow Mr. Rove to say on television what he was finding and hearing from the Romney campaign: that the numbers coming out of Ohio were not necessarily adding up to an Obama victory.

Fox News then let its decision team respond, a logistically difficult task considering it was holed up in a room about 30 yards down the hall from the studio.

The fact remains that the math doesn’t lie and everyone outside the hyper partisan world in which Rove operates knew it.

One Republican closely involved with pro-Romney “super PACs” said Wednesday that Mr. Rove should have had every reason to believe the finding of the Fox decision team.

Karl Rove seduced a lot of big money people to dump tens of millions of dollars into secret SUPER Pacs that in the end couldn’t buy the presidency.

Most telling of all is that when Rove appeared on Fox News channel on Wednesday, he was not asked about his embarrassingly transparent attempt to delegitimize President Obama’s reelection.

Fox News Channel has been revealed for what it had always been. A tool of the Republican Party that will protect Karl Rove and others like him at all cost.

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11 Responses to Fox Executives Respond About Karl Rove’s Role on Election Night

  1. Jane Austen November 8, 2012 at 10:45 am #

    Will this man finally disappear from the political scene? He’s a blight on the political landscape. We may not be perfect but he tries to make our system a joke. All that money and he couldn’t buy the election.

    • Taylor Marsh November 8, 2012 at 10:53 am #

      Thrilled the NY Times picked this story up.

      The piece I wrote yesterday went viral, with many others putting their weight on it too.

      Rove made himself radioactive by attempting to make Obama’s win illegitimate.

  2. secularhumanizinevoluter November 8, 2012 at 11:51 am #

    “Fox News Channel has been revealed for what it had always been. A tool of the Republican Party that will protect Karl Rove and others like him at all cost.”

    Oh sweet Jeebus onna popcicle stick with pins through hands and feet!!! Does ANYone think there is a single human with more then two functioning brain cells inside their cranium who hasn’t known this for DECADES?!!

  3. PeggySue November 8, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    From the post, attributed to Clemente:

    ” . . . you sort of get that oh-my-goodness-feeling.”

    Hahaha! That’s not exactly the way I or most people I know would express it. IMHO, that moment was one of the best of the night, watching the toad Rove sputter and spit and make a fool of himself.

    As for Fox News being anything but a GOP marketing tool? Do they really think anyone but the brain dead buy the ‘fair and balanced’ monicker. O’Reilly blew the cover [as he and the Fox mouthpieces do on a daily basis] when he said that Obama’s supporters were simply people that ‘wanted stuff.’ It’s same old, same old–Obama as Santa Claus [via the Rushbag] or the makers vs the takers [who, of course, are all communists eager to take from hard-working, American patriots].

    They’re shameless. Not sure why I even turned on Fox News on election night. It was probably to get a sense of how well they were lying. As it turns out? Not so good. But I’m sure glad I caught that classic moment :0).

  4. Jane Austen November 8, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    BTW – I caught Mary Matalin on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. What was her problem? The woman looked totally unhinged and just beside herself. I thought she was on something. I think she was on with Van Johnson.

    • newdealdem1 November 8, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

      Even though Matalin is good on social issues, she has been in the inner circles of the Bush/Cheney crime family for years and years and knows where the bodies are buried so to speak. But, being good on social issues like abortion and gay rights as examples is not nearly enough to forgive her for her stance and participation in and approval of the preemptive strike on Iraq and everything that followed from Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo detention camp. I honestly don’t know how Carville can stomach her although love and lust go a long way to act as a bromide.

  5. Cujo359 November 8, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    “Karl Rove seduced a lot of big money people to dump tens of millions of dollars into secret SUPER Pacs that in the end couldn’t buy the presidency. “

    – TM

    One of the things I’ve wondered about the Citizens United decision is how effective all that money would be. Not surprisingly, perhaps, the biggest effect it seems to be having is to completely drown out any useful information about political candidates. In the Washington governor’s race, for instance, I had absolutely no idea what the two major candidates were thinking of doing should they win based on what the TV ads said about them. I did, however, have a complete knowledge of all the creepy stuff that various people were willing to accuse them of being.

    It’s hard to take a politician’s word about anything, but if you believe what they and their allies say about their opponents, you really are a special kind of idiot.

    So it remains to be seen what effect all that money will actually have. Turning TV audiences off to politics seems the most likely result at the moment, though.

  6. Lake Lady November 8, 2012 at 3:27 pm #

    Did anyone see Jon Stewart’s takedown of the moment? Delicious~

  7. newdealdem1 November 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

    Although I didn’t see the Rove aneurysm live, I saw you tube versions of it and was absolutely stoked at his public humiliation and at the very venue that is supposed to provide a welcome cover for this political jackal.

    Rove has had a long ratf..ker’s career starting when he was a young college student working for (and honing his ratf..ck tactics) at the feet of Donald Segretti, one of Nixon’s Watergate henchmen.. Rove then went on to work for George H. W. Bush’s Lee Atwater, the political operative ratf..ker king who on his death bed confessed his sorrow and asked for forgiveness for what he did (much like those in fox holes who ask for God’s help or forgiveness just in case) to his political opponents for years and years. As we all know, Rove then went on to work for GWBushie, who called him “turf blossom”. His first assignment was to try to annilate Ann Richards, who his boss was trying to unseat as Governor of Texas. And, what was one of the things that Rove did to diss and try to destroy Ann Richards?

    Rove beat her in part by starting a whispering campaign that she was a lesbian. She was not. (As an aside but also pertinent here: Rove’s father was gay.) But in those days (much, much less these days), one way to keep a woman down (especially a strong, forthright, and outspoken and scary smart woman) was to label her a “lesbian” thereby scaring the shite out of her so that she either “quiet’s down” or disappears altogether. Scary how this tactic worked for so long. And, although this wasn’t the only thing that did in Ann Richards, it was still potent enough to do her harm and she lost her bid for a second term to GWBushie and the rest is you know what.

    So, like you Taylor and the majority of those of us who post here, there is no love lost for this master creep and although it did take over a dozen years to see him humiliated in public and on FOX of all places was as delectable a dish served regardless of how cold it was, it satisfied many.

    The two people that I hope got some satisfaction from Rove’s “take down” on Tuesday are two people who are very familiar with this blog and whom I remember Taylor interviewed during 2008 when they supported Hillary Clinton for POTUS during the primaries. Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson. If any two people had a right to see this ratf..king SOB taken down (outside of serving a prison sentence as he should have served for committing treason according to George H. W Bush’s standard for revealing the name of a covert CIA operative as Valerie Plame was), it was Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson.

    I would have loved to see their faces, when Rove’s public take down was so public and so complete.

    • Cujo359 November 8, 2012 at 4:04 pm #

      I have to admit to a certain amount of schadenfruede here. For his part in Plamegate and all those other offenses, he deserves worse.

      Still, it’s tempered by the knowledge that if Rove falls, there will be another to take his place. There’s an ecological niche for these guys, as Segretti and Atwater, among many others, have proved. As long as we need them, there will be guys like this.

  8. newdealdem1 November 8, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

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    Still, it’s tempered by the knowledge that if Rove falls, there will be another to take his place. There’s an ecological niche for these guys, as Segretti and Atwater, among many others, have proved. As long as we need them, there will be guys like this.

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    Yep, Cujo, unfortunately, there will always be someone to take these SOB’s place as long as there are those willing to do whatever needs to be done to win at whatever cost. Segretti, Atwater and Rove are not new to the American scene.

    Historian and author Joseph Cummins wrote a book a few years back documenting these offenses called “Anything For A Vote: Dirty Tricks, Cheap Shots, and October Surprises,”

    It chronicles the campaign smears, attacks, and misdirections that have typified U.S. elections since George Washington‘s win in 1789. The upshot of Cummins’s book: campaigns are no dirtier now than they were in the past. No doubt about it. But, that doesn’t detract from the utter disgust felt by you and I and most others when the tactics used by the Segretti’s, Atwater’s and Rove’s rises from the dregs of the earth from whence they came and who knowingly have ruined the careers and sometimes lives of those they target. And, neither does it lessen the amount of schadenfreude felt by you and me and many others for the pleasure derived from the misfortune of those who committed continued offenses against so many others and for the most part without any debt paid for their offenses.

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