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For Jill Stein Voters

THIS ONE is for you.

You didn’t listen to the crassness of Chris Matthews, the Obamabots and hyper partisan insults, but just kept the faith and voted your conscience.

That’s as American as it gets.

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12 Responses to For Jill Stein Voters

  1. ogenec November 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm #

    Turns out you’re even more ineffectual than had been supposed. That’s great!

    • fangio November 7, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

      See if you feel the same way when Obama shanks you in the back, along with everyone else. I have been a long time Green supporter and will remain one long after Obama gets through compromising and capitulating the country away. Voting against someone rather than voting for someone is a vote for no one.

      • Cujo359 November 7, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

        I learned to ignore these clowns a long time ago. They love to put people down for having the temerity to try something that has a chance of working, and won’t be happy even if we do what they ask, because it won’t work and it would be our fault for not doing it hard enough.

        • angels81 November 8, 2012 at 12:06 am #

          Hey Cujo, putting people down is a two way street including you third party voters. All you have to do is read the post at the top. Calling people who voted for Obama obamabots and you calling us clowns puts you in the same class of people you are bitching about. You also need to get over yourself, nobody really cares what you do, so being happy or not about what you do has no bearing on much of anything.

          • Cujo359 November 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

            Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. What Taylor wrote is that those people who voted third party did so despite the insults and the attempts to blame them for the failure of the Democratic Party to win elections thanks to its tradition of not doing what progressives want.

            Unfortunately, I have a habit of reacting people who write things that are both stupid and arrogant. Stupidity alone doesn’t bother me, but when people assert that anyone who doesn’t follow their thinking lack mental or emotional resources, I tend to react in kind. You’ve done that plenty here, and you’ll no doubt do it again, and I’ll no doubt continue to be undiplomatic in response.

            I’m not going to apologize for voting third party. That’s what you and several other folks here demand, and it’s simply not going to happen. I’ve heard that same, cowardly and lame bleating every year since 2000 about how it’s all ours’ (and Nader’s) fault that Bush won the election, and I’m done with simply pointing out all the other reasons that doesn’t make sense. As long as the Altermans of the world are the only ones shouting, there are plenty of people who think they’re the only ones worth listening to. I’m voting for what I want, not against what I fear. So, when people explain that it’s my fault that their own lame candidates don’t win because those candidates refuse to listen to their base, which is what I want, I’m going to explain that they need to look closer to home for someone to blame.

            You have, in the past week or so, told us how you think that those of us who vote third party are just doing it because we want to feel good about ourselves. Not too long before that, you accused anyone who votes third party of simply being lazy, or otherwise lacking some important attribute that respectable people have. How in the world you think you can write such things, and not be treated like a jerk, is beyond me. So, if you don’t like being insulted, I’d say tough. You got what’s coming to you. If you want to be treated with respect, show some.

    • Joyce Arnold November 7, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

      ogenec, this comment from you surprises me. Not a surprise that you aren’t supportive of the Green Party, and no worries on that. But that you’d be what sounds quite dismissive of people whose perspective is different from yours. The “you” dismissed aren’t, in my opinion and as one of them, “ineffectual” — though I’d guess most of us would acknowledge that there’s always more to learn. What we are, among other things, is one group of people making choices based on policies and positions most reflective of our own, and doing it in spite of a two party system which routinely makes it as difficult as possible for anyone who doesn’t choose to vote R or D.

      • ogenec November 7, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

        For goodness’ sake, Joyce, just look at the post. That’s what I was reacting to. Everyone’s vote is sacred, and no one should be ridiculed for voting their preference. I’ve said so many, many times. But if you are going to call me an Obamabot or partisan for voting my preference, I’m going to return the insult. Especially today. I just don’t have the patience to put up with that mess today.

        And since I know that you have the good sense, civility, and good rearing not to insult others, I freely apologize to you for offending you with my remarks. They were not aimed at you.

  2. jinbaltimore November 7, 2012 at 6:15 pm #

    voted Stein, and would do it a million times over.

    Will enjoy not having the blood on his hands from those taken out by Obama for being too old or sick or poor, or whistle-blowing…or just geographically unfortunate.

    Celebrating gay marriage’s passage in MD today, but it’s a tempered celebration.

  3. T-Steel November 7, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    Stein voter here as well. South Carolina had 5221 Stein voters, 15,712 Johnson voters, and 4587 Goode voters. Most of Stein’s votes came from Greenville County (where Greenville, SC is located. But there was a Stein, Johnson, or Goode voter in every county.

    Progress! One step at a time. :)

  4. Taylor Marsh November 8, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    Joyce Arnold November 7, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Good for you.

    You and others who voted for Jill Stein, though I’m not one, as I’ve written before, took a lot of grief around here (and elsewhere, let me add).

    The tweet above from my colleague and this post was obviously addressed to those who took the time to go out of their way to insult Stein voters. Around here you know who you are.

    People who think the point of you, T-Steel, Cujo359 (though I don’t know for whom he voted), voting for Jill Stein or someone beyond Obama or Romney, as about playing the role of “spoiler” remain in the class of the politically ignorant. The whole “spoiler” notion died a long time ago.

    • Uh-oh November 8, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

      Thank you Taylor. Those of us who voted for third party candidates were voting FOR someone (the person we agreed with the most) as opposed to voting AGAINST someone. I feel that the Republican v Democrat football game had very little (if anything) to do with the things I believe are important.

  5. secularhumanizinevoluter November 11, 2012 at 8:10 am #

    ” Those of us who voted for third party candidates were voting FOR someone (the person we agreed with the most) as opposed to voting AGAINST someone.”

    Some were…some weren’t. Just as most….the vast majority of in fact….Obama voters were voting FOR him.

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