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Somebody Explain to Obama and Romney What Middle Class Means

PBS DOES the grunt work in “What is the American Middle Class?” As you’ll see from their report, one of the reasons there is little to be excited about right now is that both Obama and Romney are talking about a middle class they’re not even defining correctly.

There is no strict definition of the term “middle class”, so it can often mean different things to different people. While both candidates promise to reduce taxes on middle-income Americans, Romney recently defined the middle class as “$200,000 to $250,000 and less;” a similar definition to President Obama’s, which simply names all middle class people as those making less than $250,000.

However, those numbers are very different from the median — or middle — household income in America, which the Census Bureau reported to be about $50,000 in 2011. The top 5 percent of American households had incomes of $186,000 or more, meaning that many of them would still qualify as “middle class” under the candidates’ definitions.

The Census splits the population into five different groups based on income, each comprising 20 percent of the population. If the middle 20 percent is truly the “middle class”, then middle class households make between $38,500 and $62,400 per year.

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11 Responses to Somebody Explain to Obama and Romney What Middle Class Means

  1. mjsmith September 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    IF you are on Government assistance for food and income, you are not middle class. If you are able t earn an honest living and provide for your family, you are middle-class. If you have enough to save for retirement, pay for your children’s education, and have money left over after paying your bills, you are upper-middle class. If you are debt free, own more than one house, and are worried about taxes when you manage your money, you are upper class.

    Taxes effect people differently. Minoritites in the USA generally live in areas with higher tax rates. The tax system needs to be overhauled. The Department of the Treasury itself needs a big overhaul as well. “Fine Tuning” our tax system, as Obama and Romney are suggesting, will not make any improvement. Yes getting rid of loopholes will work. I have no doubt that as soon is one loophoole is removed, at least one more will take its place.

    • secularhumanizinevoluter September 28, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

      1.”IF you are on Government assistance for food and income, you are not middle class.”

      So that would rule out Mitt da Twit and Lyin Ryan huh? They are making their money from sucking at the public teat one way or another.

      2.” If you are able t earn an honest living and provide for your family, you are middle-class.”

      So all of those working poor aren’t making an “honest living”?!!! How very repugnantklan/teabagger of you!

      3.” If you have enough to save for retirement, pay for your children’s education, and have money left over after paying your bills, you are upper-middle class.”

      BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! DAMN you have an awfully low threshopld there!!! If you are not in abject poverty you are UPPER middle class?!!!!!

      4.” If you are debt free, own more than one house, and are worried about taxes when you manage your money, you are upper class.”

      So by YOUR definition there are NO members of the upper class?!!!!!!!!

      5.”Taxes effect people differently. Minoritites in the USA generally live in areas with higher tax rates.”

      Falls heavy into the no shit Sherlock catagory!

      6.” The tax system needs to be overhauled. The Department of the Treasury itself needs a big overhaul as well.”

      That is sortta what Obama wants to do…actually make the 1% PAY some taxes for all that corp[orate and rich folk welfare they have been sucking up all these years.

      7. “Fine Tuning” our tax system, as Obama and Romney are suggesting, will not make any improvement.”

      Excuse me….Mitt da Twit and Lyin Ryan wanting to have the 1% pay even LESS taxes while RAISING them on everyone else is fine tuning?!!!!! THEFT is more how I would discribe it!

      8.”Yes getting rid of loopholes will work.”

      The 1% can stash money in the Camen Islands and Swiss Bank Accounts or deduct $77,000 for dancing horses….but I have a feeling this isn’t the kind of loopholes you and Mitt da Twit and Lyin Ryan are talking about huh?

      9.” I have no doubt that as soon is one loophoole is removed, at least one more will take its place.”

      Well, no, not unless politicians write them in…kinda like what Mitt da Twit and Lyin Ryan want to do.

      • mjsmith September 29, 2012 at 7:58 am #

        secularhumanizingvulture you really Debbie Wasserman Schultz? You can tell us.

        • secularhumanizinevoluter September 29, 2012 at 8:15 am #

          DAMN! That’s high praise inDEED!!!!!!

        • secularhumanizinevoluter September 29, 2012 at 8:18 am #

          Incidentally ……”secularhumanizingvulture”? wassa matta? Don’t you believe you none in that thar Evolution? Creationist/IDer much? That splains ALLOT!!!!!

  2. ladywalker68 September 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    Thanks, Taylor. Nice to know that someone out there is looking at reality.

  3. Cujo359 September 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm #

    start quote:

    If the middle 20 percent is truly the “middle class”, then middle class households make between $38,500 and $62,400 per year.

    end quote

    Well, one nice thing about that definition is that the middle class can’t possibly be shrinking.

    Unfortunately, it’s not the one I’ve had in mind. I think mjsmith got it pretty much right, in any case, being middle class has to do with your personal economic circumstances, not being in one economic quantile or other.

    • secularhumanizinevoluter September 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

      ” I think mjsmith got it pretty much right”
      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      • Cujo359 September 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

        Whatever.

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