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“I strongly disagree with Bart,” Dingell said during an appearance on MSNBC. “I think he’s wrong.” – The Hill
One of the more unconscionable things Mr. Stupak is doing is lying about the current (bad) legislation. He’s telling his colleagues that women using their own money in the exchanges will be able to buy insurance coverage that pays for abortion. There is no abortion funding in the current bad bill. What Mr. Stupak wants to do is move one step forward to outlawing abortion through health care legislation, one step at a time.
As an aside, Rep. Stupak’s scheduled 11 a.m. press conference was postponed due to what’s being called “a scheduling conflict.” You decipher it.
From NRO, for what it’s worth:
Two pro-life GOP members close to Stupak tell NRO that any Stupak deals are off. They just spoke with him and they said he’s finished with Pelosi. They rejected his enrollment corrections proposal.
Congress members, we’re finding out through the health care debate, aren’t very bright and since this legislation is complex, with the exchanges making things worse, all sorts of things can be said to frighten the ignorant.
It’s unconscionable that men who call themselves “liberal” are saying women should suck Stupak language up in the name of a bad health care bill that is much less than Democrats should accept. But that’s what we’re hearing from “progressive” men.
[…] Because it isn’t about “universal health care.” It’s about controlling women, period. It’s about sticking your nose in other people’s business. It’s about pushing your religious beliefs on everyone else because voices in your head tell you your Jesus is The One — even though your Jesus never said one single solitary word in any of the four gospels of the Bible about abortion or fertilized eggs being human. You’ve just gone and made it up about “life beginning at conception.” Jesus never said that. The little voice in your head said that, the same little voice that wants your grubby paws on women’s uteruses. You need help. Please get some help and leave the rest of us alone, Mr. Stupak and friends.
After all, isn’t it enough that women can’t get an abortion in any of the 31 Michigan counties you represent in Congress? There is not one single abortion provider here in the north of the state, according to Planned Parenthood Mid and South Michigan. Hey, Bart — you’ve already won! Women’s rights have been stamped out in your entire Congressional district! Woo hoo! …
Enter John Dingell, a powerful, longtime force in the House, who is getting the message from women that we understand compromise, because we’re asked to do it all the time, but Bart Stupak’s language and his insistence that he’s more important than the majority who support women’s self-determination is one step way too far.
Veteran Democratic Rep. John Dingell vowed Saturday to work to defeat fellow Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak (D) on abortion in the healthcare bill. […] “I’m going to try to show him the error of his ways, and I’m also going to try to see to it that we beat him on this,” Dingell said on MSNBC. “Because this is a matter of the utmost humanitarian and economic concern to this nation.”
Things remain fluid, with there still a strong probability that the Democrats will still pull this off. However, they need to do it without caving to Bart Stupak.
UPDATE II (12:44): Obama and Dem leaders trying end around with executive order, via Marc Ambinder:
@marcambinder End Around: RT WH & Dem leaders floating trial balloon in press of exec order to clarify abortion funding policy. #women #hcr
UPDATE (12:17): From TPM:
Just off the House floor moments ago, Pelosi told reporters there will be “no separate vote” on abortion or any other measure.