Scott Brown Chuckles
17 January 2010 9:25 am by Taylor Marsh
updated
The Democrats in Massachusetts, led by Martha Coakley, have run an embarrassing campaign.
That said, when Scott Brown says “I’m not sure about that,” when referring to whether Barack Obama’s mother was married or if she had him out of wedlock, it makes the case for voting against this ignorant cretin. Besides, who cares if she was single? After all, look where Obama landed in his life. He’s President of the United States, with a resume before something that would make any parent proud. In fact, Michelle Obama said Barack’s mother was single. Via MSNBC’s First Read:
“I want to make sure that people, that people understand that as Barack talks about his personal experiences growing up without a father, that in no way doesn’t recognize that there are serious problems in the system,” she said. “As we are talking about that fight, we also have to recognize that there are some people who do have complete ability and access to do what they need to do.”
The Kansas City roundtable, held at the city’s University of Missouri campus, was the aspiring First Lady’s second in as many days. Yesterday, she held a similar event in Pontiac, Michigan, before a crowded auditorium of mostly black women where they discussed soaring health care costs and unemployment.
Today’s audience was also made up of almost all women, but the crowd in the more affluent university area was more mixed. Participants mentioned college-loan payments and day-care fees as monthly costs that drive them to scrimp and cut corners.
Obama used the roundtable audience, as she did yesterday, to describe her husband’s understanding of women’s issues through the prism of the strong — but sometimes struggling — women in his life.
His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was “very young and very single when she had him.” And, Obama added, he has observed his wife’s attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.
“He sees me, his wife, who struggles every day with that guilt that we all hold deep in our hearts as women,” she said. “That guilt that you don’t have the choice to stay home, and even if you do, you feel guilty.”
“He has seen me struggle with this my entire life,” she added. “Trust me, Barack understands the struggles of women.”
Isn’t that the whole point? (Because, to add, does anyone think Republicans have women’s best interests in mind?)
Brian Beutler reports Obama’s parents were married, but again, considering where he ended up who cares?
It makes this all the more depressing, which can be filed under “the enthusiasm gap.”
He’s drawing crowds rarely seen by Republicans in this state and seems to have more organic support than Coakley, an impression underscored by the imperfect measurement of yard signs spotted for the Republican (many) and the Democrat (none) along the South Shore and on the Cape.
That Scott Brown chuckles at a news anchor who may have the facts wrong, smearing Obama’s mother either way, who against all odds produced a remarkable son, shows such stunning ignorance from all sides, while also reminding everyone that the clucking, negative campaigning, especially from the left, does a disservice to everyone.
Bill Clinton landed in Massachusetts for Martha yesterday, Obama today. Let’s hope they can drag this candidacy over the finish line in the win column. But regardless, it’s been an embarrassing debacle for Democrats.
This race is a referendum on Obama/Reid/Pelosi. The Democratic leadership is so far out of the mainstream with their policies — forcing people to buy healthcare, amnesty for illegal aliens, and raising taxes — that average working class Democrats see the leadership as working against their economic interests which, of course, is true.
Coakley may have just lost Red Sox fans, a considerable voting bloc. She dismissed Curt Schilling, former Red Sox ace pitcher, as ‘Another Yankee fan’ because Schilling endorsed Brown. Needless to say, the Yankeees are hated in Massachusetts. http://tinyurl.com/y98vduq
Yeah, I was wondering if anyone would post a comment on that one. Felony stupid on Coakley’s part.
Besides having been an ace Red Sox pitcher, Schilling is a good person, and definitely not “a Yankee fan” i.e. a bad person (in Mass.).
from wiki:
Schilling is a supporter of care for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) sufferers. His organization, Curt’s Pitch for ALS, allows fans and organizations to sponsor him, donating to the ALS Association for every strikeout he throws. He also donated to the charity his $25,000 winnings in a celebrity version of Jeopardy! that originally aired on November 9, 2006. In the 2004 playoffs, after the operation on his ankle, Schilling wrote “K ALS” (short for “strike out ALS”) on his shoe, knowing that the cameras would be focusing on his foot numerous times while he was pitching. He also does a weekly radio show with WEEI in Boston that raises over $100,000 each year for ALS patients and research.
In 2007, Schilling released a charity wine called Schilling Schardonnay with 100% of the proceeds supporting Curt’s Pitch for ALS and raised more than $100,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Schilling
I live in MA and I am actually embarrassed to say that out loud right now.
To demonstrate just how far the Democratic party has devolved in this state- I was on Twitter yesterday and made a comment about how the Democratic party should know better than to take the progressive vote for granted, even in MA, and I was *savaged* by Coakley supporters (and I made clear I was supporting her and have gone door to door) who were saying that if Coakley lost it was because of progressives, that we were all a bunch of spoiled brats, we were undermining President Obama in everything he did, blah blah, blah- essentially, some of these folks have decided to avoid any searing self-analysis regarding how the campaign was run and instead have decided to blame progressives. Oh well, we should be used to THAT by now. But anyway, my point is, the Democratic party is spending more time fighting amongst themselves than mounting a cohesive, well-organized political assault against Scott Brown. You know, kind of like the dems are doing nationally, also.
“BluePuppy says:
17 January 2010 at 10:55 am”
Hey, thanks fer takin time out from listening to limpwithnoballs and watchin Pat”I’m a combat veteran” Robertson to come here and regurgitate those repug talking points! Really, thanks!
“Coakley may have just lost Red Sox fans,” Sortta reminds me about the idiocy about HRC and what team she would root for. We are well and TRULY fu*ked if elections hindge on this sort of nonsense!
Following on the last thread it turns out Brown dosen’t pay taxes or healthcare for his campaign staff!! Seems there’s a ready made add there. Brown, dosen’t want healthcare for his OWN employees and dosen’t pay the Taxes on he owes on their salaries, he’ll do the same for Mass. that he did for his workers!
Here is right winger Charles Krauthammer today “Perhaps Obama thought he’d been sent to the WH to introduce a powerful social Democratic stream into America’s deeply historically individualist polity. If so, he vastly over-read his mandate. (His) was a referendum on his predecessor’s goverance. It was not an endorsement of European-style social democracy. The reason for today’s vast discontent, presaged by spontaneous national Tea Party opposition, is that Obama is too left.” (Orlando Sentinel) Obama is too left? Seriously? The Tea Party opposition is spontaneous? Really? How can you have a factual discussion when people like Krauthammer keep changing what the truth is? Does Krauthammer truely believe these things? Or is he just a well paid right wing propagandist who will try and sell whatever he is paid to say? Coakley and Obama didn’t see this coming? Peace
secularhumanizinevoluter, it’s your arrogance and attacks which is precisely the attitude why blue-collar Democratic MA is going to vote for Brown.
There are real economic issues supported by Obama/Coakley which hurt working-class Americans, and the Democratic leadership, as I enumerated, is no longer working for their interests. The healthcare bill was crafted by Big Pharma and the insurance industry, ethnic identity groups are pushing for amnesty while 15 million Americans are unemployed, and Coakley’s new tactic, via Obama, is raising taxes.
Saying that Coakley is a bad campaigner is not enough. In the final analysis, policies matter — even in deep blue MA.
Imhotep- that Krauthammer soundbite is exactly the nonsense that they are trying to sell here in MA with the Senate race but also the MSM started that claptrap once the afterglow of the inauguration ended. They fed right into the right wing soundbite of “Obama as socialist.” As you said, the statement doesn’t stand up to scrutiny- Obama DID have a more progressive mandate- his policies as he expressed them WERE much more progressive than GWB or McCain. The problem was that instead of delivering on real change, he chose instead to broker deals with the status quo. He chose instead to buy into the false promise of bipartisanship in Washington but bipartisanship requires two to tango.
Although I guess we all should have been put on notice when Rahm was selected as Obama’s Chief of Staff.
“There are real economic issues supported by Obama/Coakley which hurt working-class Americans, and the Democratic leadership, as I enumerated, is no longer working for their interests. The healthcare bill was crafted by Big Pharma and the insurance industry, ethnic identity groups are pushing for amnesty while 15 million Americans are unemployed, and Coakley’s new tactic, via Obama, is raising taxes.”
Trying to use the racist, that’s right, XENOPHOBIC RACIST crap about “illegal aliens” the repug/teabagger meme about “forcing people” to buy healthcare and then the GRAND ol repug meme of “RAISING TAXES” Naaah, anybody would have to be crazy to think you were repeating limpwithnoballs and Robertson’s crap along with the teabagger line.
The Dems are in trouble NOT because they went to far in their “socialist”(you missed that one by the way)agenda. They DIDN’T GO FAR ENOUGH. THAT is why voters are lukewarm to cold about supporting Dems and elections in general. The base is numb while the repugs, teabaggers and wingnutisphere are energized.
That dosen’t change the fact that they are shit house rat crazy, they are just energized.
Arrogant???MOI???
“The Dems are in trouble NOT because they went too far in their “socialist” agenda. They DIDN’T GO FAR ENOUGH.” That is exactly the problem. Well said, secular, well said. Peace
this whole wedlock u tube is making the rounds. its on many news sites now! wsj has interesting read on coakley final days and she has had growing crowds and also notes the commitment of dem women to her. some are interviewed and its getting real emotional for many. emotion is key- the more laramed and worried ma dems get the better for turnout.
“In the final analysis, policies matter — even in deep blue MA.”
That’s right, they DO. And THAT’S why getting the word out on scumbag Brown and his votes to deny women healthcare and reproductive choice even after being RAPED are important. That’s why getting out the message that scumbag Brown dosen’t PAY HIS TAXES or provide healthcare for his employees is important. Gee, he’ll do for Mass what he’s done for women and his own employees, YER ON YER OWN SUCKERS!!
Though I suppose you would contend that helping women and concern rich guys paying their taxes are’nt issues in deep blue Mass huh?
Sometimes people confuse arrogance with certainty of message. Peace
“Imhotep says:
17 January 2010 at 12:09 pm”
Stop it! Yer ginna make me be nice to ya!!!
secyclintonblog says:
17 January 2010 at 11:20 am
I would think those “savaging Coakley supporters” were actually Obama supporters choosing to support Coakley.
Agreed secular and imhotep.
Damn, I’m pretty certain that’s the first time I’ve ever agreed with imhotep
Maybe there is hope
secularhumanizinevoluter: you’re hysterical. Not “ha ha” hysterical. More like crumbling emotionally, kinda like Martha Coakley’s campaign.
Racist! Rape! Rich guys! Teabaggers!
I am simply observing what’s going on in MA. Those “poor stupid rubes,” like the PA voters Obama insulted, actually can understand that a far-Left agenda, crafted by special interests, lobbyists, identity groups, and the croissant-eaters, is bad for their pocket books.
If only he had a little bitty leaning left agenda there’d not be a close race in MA. Obama’s agenda barely looks Democratic much less socialist.
Obama’s trip to MA will cost taxpayers a Million dollars. Send the money to Haiti and stay in the White House.
I’d rather he try to save Coakley – it’s the least he could do since he only seems willing to work on a slightly Democratic agenda with 60 votes. It does matter to the rest of us – it’s not all about MA Tuesday.
BTW, it’s pretty silly to announce what it costs for the POTUS to travel and then suggest he stay cloistered in the WH.
BluePuppy~
The problem with your argument is that you are using the wrong vocabulary.When you say that policy crafted by lobbyists and special interests hurts the middle class you are correct. When you call that European style socialism you are demonstrating an ignorance that undermines your concern. Obama is as about as far from a socialist as a Democrat can get. If you used the term corporist or supporter of the established power structure then you would be getting closer to the problem.I dare you to name one true European type socialist on the President’s economic team.
When you use terms like crossaint-eater you betray where you are getting your information. The right and Republicans are not your friends!It behooves you to learn more about what European style socialism really means. If you are a blue collar worker you might even like it.
Bob Woodward did a pretty good job this morning on MTP dispelling themes like Krauthammer’s as crackpot.Woodward is no socialist!
corporatist
Lake Lady
Agreed on Woodward. He surprised me a bit.
Totally agree on Blue Puppy. Kind of funny when posters don’t recognize how their vocabulary gives them away.
Naomi Klien is on Fareed Akaria actually has Naiomi Klein on his show! Now that’s a socialist! I love her. If you missed it he repeats later today or this evening.
Naomi
secularhumanizinevoluter says:
17 January 2010 at 12:05 pm
“The Dems are in trouble NOT because they went to far in their “socialist”(you missed that one by the way)agenda. They DIDN’T GO FAR ENOUGH.”
What do you mean they didn’t go far enough?
They NEVER even STARTED.
Here in MA the reason the base of the Democratic party is not energized is because we/they feel a tad sold out. Coakley is hardly a far left democrat despite Scott Brown’s rather successful attempts to portray her that way. I am noticing a lot more activity here in MA, partly out of fear of Brown’s momentum but what remains to be seen is whether it is too little too late.
All the people claiming Coakley and Obama’s “far left” agenda hurts working families isn’t paying attention to the politics here in MA. If anything, it’s the other way around- not enough change we can believe in.
OT
But I am so happy to see so many new posters here. Please, lurkers, stop your lurking ways and come out and play
Send him a message.
Too bad there isn’t some local grass roots organization laying in wait for Obama at NorthEastern University this PM ready to disrupt his speech with chants of:
GIVE US THE PUBLIC OPTION AND WE WILL GO OUT TO VOTE.
OR,
NO PUBLIC OPTION, NO HEALTH CARE REFORM.
“Those “poor stupid rubes,” like the PA voters Obama insulted, actually can understand that a far-Left agenda, crafted by special interests, lobbyists, identity groups, and the croissant-eaters, is bad for their pocket books.
BluePuppy says:
17 January 2010 at 12:34 pm
Obama’s trip to MA will cost taxpayers a Million dollars. Send the money to Haiti and stay in the White House.”
I guess you and rush want him to solidify his standing with the light and dark skinned negros huh? It really is nice to see the wingnutshere stop by every once and awhile, it really, really is. Unfortunately ya’ll are about as sharp as toilet plunger but keep on stopping back, it’s always nice to hear the wingnut talking points!
Ramsgate~ I say if we are going to have protest movements we should chant “single-payer,big interest slayer”!
you know secular some of these people who stop by might be seekers. Always insulting them is no way to find common ground. If we don’t start finding common ground we are going to stay paralyzed.I’m not talking about bi-partisanship here either. Average people and by that I mean all wage earners no matter the salary and small business people.All are getting screwed by a system rigged to benefit a very small number of people.
Vocabulary is a place to start. There has been so much misinformation put out there we need to establish a defined set of facts.Many Tea party people show an astonishing amount of ignorance of the basic facts but they have good instincts,they know they are getting screwed and they are pissed about it.
Digby has a good post up about primary challengers. That would be a great place to focus enery and money. Not just in your own state but support them where they are taking a stand.
” Lake Lady says:
17 January 2010 at 3:17 pm
you know secular some of these people who stop by might be seekers. Always insulting them is no way to find common ground. If we don’t start finding common ground we are going to stay paralyzed.”
Frankly I HAVE no common ground with folks who make coded racist, straight from the repug/teabagger talking points script posts. VERY happy I don’t have any common ground with them thank you very much!
L.L.:”I’m not talking about bi-partisanship here either. Average people and by that I mean all wage earners no matter the salary and small business people.All are getting screwed by a system rigged to benefit a very small number of people.”
I have no arguement with you there. But freaking reality is we all get FAR less screwed under Democratic administrations and SOMETIMES we even have our needs met!!
LL:”Vocabulary is a place to start. There has been so much misinformation put out there we need to establish a defined set of facts.Many Tea party people show an astonishing amount of ignorance of the basic facts”
AAAAAAAAmen sister!!!
” but they have good instincts,they know they are getting screwed and they are pissed about it.”
I don’t know how many teabaggers you personally know. I had the misfortune to become aquainted with several when they first got started at the resturant at the Ice Skating complex next to where I drive a school bus. Stop in there for lunch quite often, GOOD food at low prices AND I get to watch Olympic hopefulls and competitors practice their routines.
ALL of the ones I PERSONALLY know don’t have “good insticts”. What they have is an abiding hatred of President Obama. And most of them have a VERY racist hatred of President Obama. They refuse to recognize his election as legitimate. They to a person are also Birthers. They to a person are FAR rightwing, so much so they have left the repugs behind, partially because of the skin color of the head of the RNC.
I have NOTHING in common with these people other then being a member of the same species…and I have my doubts about that.
And most of them have a VERY racist hatred of President Obama.
This is may be true of some, but not everyone is racist who has a problem with Obama, secularh. Repeating this continually is counterproductive, as Lake Lady said.
Lake Lady says:
17 January 2010 at 3:35 pm
“Digby has a good post up about primary challengers.”
I have not yet read Digby’s column but for years now I have felt that if we progressives took all the money we spent on petitions and used it to seek out and fund talented candidates WITH CONVICTION — people willing to stand and fight for what they believed in no matter what — instead of becoming boneless wonders as soon as they took office, we progressives would be far better off.
We need more Alan Graysons.
I am starting to think that maybe Grayson is more ego than brains. I really liked him at first when he hit back but I have heard him say some unneccessary things for the sensational impact. Maybe you know more about him than I do?
secular the people I know who are Teas Party people are not racist they are Republicans who are mad a both parties. They may be uncomfortable with other races because they have lived in an all white part of the country,but hey are not haters.
I don’t doubt that the group you have run into are as you describe because as we have all seen there are certainly some of that bred among the TP. Sometimes resentment is not about race it is about not feeling like you are getting a fair piece of the pie.That is why I think we are at a place where all government aid programs like college grants should be decided on economic need. Universities still need a diversity program so college students get exposed to people from other cultures and backgrounds,it’s part of being educated
secular is more correct on the racist thing than he is incorrect. Have you scanned one of these Tea-Bagger events? I’ve viewed several and seen a total of 3—that’s right 3—black faces in crowds of thousands. And those 3 folks looked like they were trying to buy Bar-B-Q. (I could make a reference about a few Jews stumbling unwittingly into a Nazi rally in 1933 but I won’t.) These Tea-Baggers are exactly what Obama was talking about when he made reference to Bible thumping, gun toting, pickup truck driving, never made it out of high school, my job at the SAAB plant just got shipped overseas, I listen to Rush Limberg, rednecks. They may not be racists, but they sure support all the wrong people and causes. Peace
Lake Lady says:
17 January 2010 at 5:30 pm
There you go LL. Education is the key but I’m not sure how it helps.
The common strain among the tea-baggers IMO is anti-intellectualism. Sarah Palin is their champion and there is no thirst for knowledge among this set.
They see themselves as ordinary people whose values come from cultural experience of hard-work, as Christian common folk who regard more than rudimentary schooling as unnecessary.
In other words, what they do not know is applauded. These are flat earth people. Creationists. They value blind faith over intellectualism and thought and critical analysis. Racism could be lurking just around the corner.
Ramsgate, and the Israelis have manipulated these dunderheads ruthlessly for the past 50 years. The armageddonist Evangelical Christians have sent tens of millions of dollars to prop up the war machine that they see as the location of mankinds final battle. That’s because the Bible tells them to do so. And so do the Zionists who profit from their foolishness. Peace
“This is may be true of some, but not everyone is racist who has a problem with Obama, secularh. Repeating this continually is counterproductive, as Lake Lady said.”
I never, NEVER said that everyone who has a problem with President Obama is a racist. I have LOTS of problems with President Obama and his adminstration so far.
But I don’t launch into a littany of rightwingnutalk or teabagger talking points in public and use that good ol N word when I figure I’m with MA kinda folks!
I am sure there are teabaggers who aren’t racist. But they sure keep their mouths shut and there heads down when ever there’s a gathering. Anytime you see video from one of their HUGE(snark alert, snark alert) get togethers scan the signs. Go back through the archives and scan the signs.
There are individual republicans who are not racist. There are individual Teabaggers who are not racist. I just haven’t met or seen or heard from any of them lately.