‘Tis the Season for Cocktails & Conversation
04 December 2009 11:29 pm by Taylor Marsh
http://rawstory.com/2009/12/glenn-beck-christmas-sweater-movie-flops-big-cities/
The headlines says it all: “Beck’s movie bombs in New York, Boston — and Washington, D.C.”
In New York, Beck sold 17 tickets. In Boston, another 17. And in Washington, D.C., the hotbed of political activism, his tearful film drew only 30, Raw Story has found.
Glenn Beck’s new movie The Christmas Sweater – A Return To Redemption — released for a viewing Thursday night in hundreds of theaters across the country. While it performed better in the south and in rural, more conservative areas, his ability to draw viewers in major US markets was a bust.
“The theater’s almost empty,” a representative at Regal Cinemas in Manhattan told Raw Story moments before it began. …
Consider this a gearing up for the holidays open thread.
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Well this is not a cheery holiday story, but it is news:
Amanda Knox and boyfriend convicted on all counts.
Doesn’t have to be cheery. News is good around here always, especially when someone gets what is deserved.
Dog gets new bone:
http://tinyurl.com/yj44fnx
My italics. Palin has never produced Trig’s birth certificate or a single piece of objective medical evidence that proves he is indeed her biological son. A child with Down Syndrome must have a pile of such records, tests, assessments and ultrasounds that conclusively prove that he is Sarah’s biological son. It seems bizarre to me that neither the public nor the campaign (so far as I can glean) has ever been given one of them.
Her doctor, Catherine Baldwin Johnson, offered a two-page summary of Palin’s health just hours before polls opened on November 3, a bizarre approach to transparency. The summary omits certain details from Palin’s medical history (two miscarriages, one serious), and does not provide any actual documentary evidence of the pregnancy and birth. It was authored by a doctor who has refused to return any phone calls, even from the New York Times, since the moment Palin’s candidacy was announced. The hospital has three recorded births on the day Trig was born: the governor’s son, by wishes of the parents, was not included on the list. There were only a handful of photographs over eight months that showed Palin pregnant, none showed her as visibly pregnant as with her previous children, and at seven months, her entire staff and all of Alaska’s political class disbelieved her…
Sullivan’s post is a jaw dropper.
What a cute Christmas Card from Verve. I have spent the day putting all my fall decorations away and I am getting ready to decorate for Christmas. We just had a cold snap today so the mood is perfect. I think I will put on some similar music and build my first indoor fire and start putting out the Santas…maybe poor a glass of merlot.
Glenn Blech…BWAHAHAHAHAHA! This meat puppet appeals to social misfits, racists, misogynists, homophobes, Imhopless(he hates all things Obama TOO!)xeniohobes and any other rightwingnut hate group you can come up with. Although Imhopless isn’t rightwing nut, he/she/it’s more of an anarchistwingnut. Maybe they should have offered 20% off tickets for anyone who’s “teabagged” or been “teabagged” in the last two weeks? My absolute FAV is the story, I think it’s over at Huffpo where an internal memo suggests conservatives turn “teabagger” into the new N word. They can use it amongst themselves but if anyone ELSE does, ESPECIALLY the Media they come out shithouse rat squeallin!!
YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!!
As for Dinner
1 Bag frozen Seafood mix from Trader Joe’s(scallops, squid, shrimp)
One bag frozen Langustina tails…ALSO from TJ
One large Onion
About 4 or 5 LARGE cloves Garlic
One Jalapeno Pepper
Half an Orange
1 Tablespoon Cumin
1 package chicken Bullion…NOT a cube!!!
Chulula Hot Sauce
Some fresh Oregeno and rosemary, if you don’t have fresh SHAME ON YOU!!! GROW YOUR OWN HERBS IN WINDOW BOXES!!!
1/2 cup white wine of your choice, I used a nice Muscato, wanted just that TOUCH of sweetness.
A couple Tablespoons white, whole wheat flour.
I pakage Organic(what makes PASTA organic?!) angelhair…ALSO from TJ’s
In a HOT saute pan add a gerous shot of tablesoons EVOO.
Do what’s obvious to do to the Onion, Garlic and Jalapeno and add to pan.
While these cook till translucent bring a pot of water big enough to boil 1 lb of spag to a rolling boil, add salt,add a good shot of EVOO.
To the pan with the veggies add the Seafood mix and tails.
as the seafood atarts to thaw and cook it will give off quite a bit of liquid…YUM…to the boiling center add the envelope of bullion, it will spread evenly.
Add the cumin.
Add the wine and freah Herbs.
In a bowel add enough water to the flour to make a paste. To this add about half a cup of the liquid from the seafood.
Take the seafood off the heat. Add the THOROUGHLY mixed flour paste to the seafood mix. Retuen to heat and stir till thickened. Turn off
Drain Spag.
Squeeze Half an Orange into seafood and mix well.
MANGA!!!!
As to the Woman/Girl in Italy. I wasn’t there when the crime was done. I wasn’t there to hear all the testimony and evidence presented. I wasn’t there to hear her defense. How the HELL can I offer an opinion on her guilt or inoccence?
I detect MORE then a bit of xenophobia in the way this has been presented in the Media as in see how evil and corrupt the Italion injustice system is!
You know Taylor when so called liberals were going after her hammer and tong I thought a lot of it was over the line. Now she has the “bone” and shows and blogs and rags that used this particular smear now have themselves to thank. But it hurts the progressive side because the other side paints with a broad brush.
Oh yeah, when you add the OJ add the hot sauce.
KNEW you’d weigh in on Beck, secularh! heh-heh…
I made this recipe for Mark the other night as a surprise. Huge hit.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/beef-bourguignon-recipe/index.html
That sounds yummy, secularh.
OMG secular we do need a TM cookbook…. that sounds fabulous.
I make a similar beef bourguignon,that’s how I found my favorite $10 red wine,Tres Pecos,it’s Spanish.I usually use sirlion tips.
While plenty smart,Andrew Sullivan is a little touched in the head in MHO.
It has become crystal clear over the past several days that Obama sold the Progressives (Liberals) down the proverbial river on Afghanistan. He “surged” 30,000 troops, many of whom, sadly, will never see another Thansgiving, to placate the Republicans and the right wing. The neocons and warmongers have stood up to support his decision while the Left, the real Progressives and Liberals, have condemned it. Why vote for a Democrat when you can get the same policy decision by voting Republican? On a personal note, it gives me great pleasure to announce that Imhotep has now taken up permanent residence in secularhumns head.
Peace
There were many true progressive/liberal Democrats who recognized the Obama was not what he presented himself to be. But the great cheer leader in chief brought all those “new Democrats” to the party – and everyone genuflected. Now they must dance with the one that brung them….not much there. And all the new Democrats have folded their tents and slunk away.
1.”the Left, the real Progressives and Liberals, have condemned it.”
So nice that we now have someone who speaks for REAL liberals, progressives and the left. Kinda like when the repugs spoke of them speaking for REAL Americans.
2.” Why vote for a Democrat when you can get the same policy decision by voting Republican?”
Again the childishly assinine attempt to equate the Obama administration with the Bush mob. Same policy decisions? Seems to me the BUSH mob abandoned Afghanistan and the fight with the folks actually responsible for 9/11 and those who REALLY gave them santuary and support. SAME policy? We have VERY differant ideas about what “same” means. To me it means…the SAME. In Imhopless whine it means 180% differant direction. Interesting.
3.” On a personal note, it gives me great pleasure to announce that Imhotep has now taken up permanent residence in secularhumns head. Peace”
My, my, my. What a legend in your own little mind you are. You are just soooooo impressed with yourself ain’tcha. I suppose it’s good for your lil ego that someone is.
You’re actually beginning to sound remarkably similar to another troll that got banned around here during the Primaries only with minimally more self control.
Especially the self agrandizing refering to yourself in the third person.
Child, if you only knew how not in my mind or thoughts you are untill I run across one of your verbal diahretic spewings here.
djjl, I don’t completely agree with your saying all the new Dems have folded their tents and gone away. The lions share of disgust and disappointment is with the Senate. President Obama deserves PLENTY. But the Legislature is where EVERYTHING happens. The Pres can suggest it,supports it or NOT and either and either signs it or vetos it.
NOT CLOSING GITMO is Pres. Obama’s baby.
Us STILL being in Iraq without a clear end game/date is Pres. Obama’s baby.
And they is some UGLY chillin let me tell you.
But all the rest is the Congress.
If the Dem Congress stopped fu*kin around with the repugs and slapped the spewdogs into line they could pass EVERYTHING that was promised in a heartbeat. EVEN IF OBAMA MADE NOISE ABOUT BIPARTASINSHIP!
If the Congress said screw you and sent the bills to his desk to be signed into law or vetoed there isn’t DICK he could do about it EXCEPT sign them into law or veto them. Or let them sit for however long it is, thirty days?, and they become law.
Obama is what he is. I certainly wasn’t nuts about him but the reality is it’s the CONGRESS that’s screwing the pooch MAJORLY.
“beef bourguignon” MMmmmmmmm! I LOVE this stuff laddeled over a bed of nice freshly made mashed potatoes!!
Wow, Secular.
Can I have some of whatever meds you’re on?
I’m almost out of my Vicodins.
secularhumanizinevoluter says:
04 December 2009 at 9:42 pm
Toasted Jewish rye bread for dipping this time around, otherwise just straight up. I have to say this time around I so nailed it. The baby portabellas and chanterelles added a lot.
Thanks secular – I’ll think about it.
pmichael,Taylor,hmmmmmmmmfoos.
I love Jewish rey- abit of butter and a bit of cheese. Yummo.
I love beef bourguinon.
My grandfather worked 5 1/2 days per week. He rode the bus home. He’d catch his transfer in downtown Houston at Weingarten’s Grocery Store. He’d pick up milk, a slab of cheese, butter, rye bread and usually apple strudel.
How wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What marvelous memories they have given me.
Something about the season just brings it all out…
Dig this dirt on Baucus:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Baucus_affair.html
I’m still working on one of my birthday gifts which was a bunch of KING crab. It’s kinda weird. Even though they took most of my tummy away and I *hate* food for the most part – crab meat and me seem to get along. ‘course, my family knew that – thus the gift. I don’t get too many high spots these days – and King crab ain’t cheap – but give me 10m of Vicodin, some Budweisers, a little Santa Cruz Silver Haze (another birthday present), and 5 pounds of King crab claws (love them ‘thumbs’) – and I’m in 7th heaven. These days, I’ll take this over sex.
Birthday? Happy day to you, pmichael. KING crab….mmmmmm. Good for you. Enjoy the hell out of it.
Heyas, Taylor. Yeah, I had the big six-oh on the 1st. That’s why I switched my avatar (which for some reason, Secular claims is “really you” [me]) LOL
Ah… Well again, Happy Birthday! I noticed the avatar switch, obviously, but the big day, just make the celebration last.
Hey everyone -
Given this last week I have had a few glasses of wine tonight, so take that as you will.
I am a huge fan of “California Rock” from the 70’s and early 80’s so with that I give you one of my favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeL1z4IRTeI
And secular this one is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY2rnaXlu2s
It’s the closest to church you probably will ever be.
my mayor bill white here in houston is running for tx guv! its our best chance at taking back our state since ann richards. white is very popular here – best known for deciding to take in 100,000 katrina refugees when no other city would take in that many. he is a leader not a follower. big on green energy and has lead in building rail here. he was chair fo the tx dem party and was in clinton’s admin as deputy sec of energy.this will be a major race. as white said today- perry wants us to secede and i want tx to lead the union. oh yeah.
I had small shrimp with cheese and pasta for dinner tonight.
Abraham Lincoln should have told Ulysses Grant to tell Robert E. Lee
“We’re going to take the freed slaves up north. You can keep your guns and you can keep the South and your cheap labor economics. Just practice it on your white citizens now and continue your own confederacy. We want nothing more of you.”
Join the Liberal Democratic Party of the United States at http://www.democratz.org
We’re going to punish the companies that give money to conservatives in both parties with our indifference.
“kris says:
05 December 2009 at 1:17 am
And secular this one is for you.
It’s the closest to church you probably will ever be.”
Might entertain you to know I make the lions share of my living from restoring and building new Stained Glass Windows for CHURCHES!!!!
AND am a member of a UAME Church!
My wife asked the Bishop(who she knew since he was the Pastor of the Church on our block) if he would marry us in his church. He said OK so long as we became members of the church. I told him I was an athiest and he said, and I’ll always love the man for this,”Oh hell, I don’t care about all that, just so long as you two love each other”
I restored the windows in the church as a thankyou gift and have been fairly buisy restoring windows in Churches in African American communities ever since.
One of my dreams is opening a school teaching AA artists how to do staned glass and stained glass restoration.
There are literally millions of square feet of stained glass in Black churches across America and less then 1% is by Black Artists.
I would consider it one of the things I’d be proudest of if I was a small part of some predominatly Black congregation someday looking around on Sunday and seeing a Black artistic take on the Myths that bind the community.
Another thing I would LOVE to do if the funds became available would be do a series of windows for a predominantly Black congregation with medalions in them that started with the first Africans coming as slaves on ships, Fredrick Douglas and the Civil War, Dr.Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights struggle and the fourth with the election of President Obama.
“www.democratz.org says:
05 December 2009 at 3:36 am”
I think it would have worked out better for the country if the Victorius Union/Federal Government had voted on and passed a Constitutional Ammendment stating that from this date forward and in perpituity NO WHITE MALE born below the old Mason Dixon line shall be allowed to vote for or hold any public office, State or Federal.
Hey! you guys there are liberals in the South you know. There are liberals in border states like mine to,we are just usually outnumbered.
secular…I love your dream of starting a school for teaching the skilled craft of stained window repair and to develop young black artists into window creators. As an educator I had many AA students who were very artistic and I would wish for a way to develop it.
Maybe there are grant opportunities within the Department of Ed. Everytime I see the Sec.Duncun he talks about the unprecedented amount of money his Department has to spend.
So far I have not heard him articulate a vision of educational innovation. He seems to be a believer in data collection as a means to determine what programs are working.I think the whole structure needs to be rethought.I agree with Gov. Warner in Taylor’s current post. I can go on and on about it but I will spare everyone.
My boyfriend and I used to go to a wonderful UAME Church in St. Louis city that he learned of during a recovery program. I loved it…the music and the warmth were wonderful. I would always kinda be humming the rest of the day.
Democratz…a caller gave you a shout out on Washington Journal this morning.
I’m listening to the Bernanke hearings right now on c-span,Sen. Jim Bunning R- Kentucky is ripping him a new one right now and I can’t disagree with a thing he is saying.
Did anyone see Dylan Rattigan reduce Christina Rohmer to churrping yesterday? Damn he is good!
Good morning all. What a great post you have up Taylor. It is quite disappointing that we do not currently have an Apollo like effort for new energy technologies. Made even more maddening that we have small innovative start-ups based right here in the ol’ USA that have been making huge en-roads in energy research the last ten or so years. I am most excited about the late great Robert Bussard’s Emc2’s new corporation that was recently funded by DARPA. They asked for 5 million and got 10 million. This is the most promising I’ve seen in years.
Looks like President Obama has decided to work with the Democrats on legislation. What a welcome change. Danc’in with them that brung him.
Obama Will Meet With Democratic Senators Sunday To Rally Support For Health Reform
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/05/obama-will-meet-with-demo_n_381351.html
Well, I would say it’s the midnight hour!
secularhumanizinevoluter says:
05 December 2009 at 8:55 am
secularhumanizinevoluter says:
05 December 2009 at 9:00 am
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
secular
Thanks for all your comments. I’d have to agree with the liberal activist I read a few weeks ago – there’s more to a movement than wearing a t-shirt during election season.
A blame Obama more than Congress because he has largely ignored them and shown little leadership in the legislative direction other than toward Republicans. My guess it’s because he has little legislative experience in the US Congress and didn’t play it right. He’s not the pied piper and Congress simply wasn’t going to listen for his tune.
Yeah, Congress deserves plenty of criticism. But Obama presented himself as the ultimate leader – he hasn’t shown leadership.
djjl, “leadership” can take more than one form. The whole ‘religion’ thing is a perfect example but is best explained with the Trump-like corporate ‘leader’. There are two distinct approaches:
1) You can form a company/government/universe then carefully manage – even micro-manage it from that point on. This is the Christian/Jewish/Muslim ‘God’.
2) You can form the same but carefully create it with appointed people to run it correctly so you can just sit back and watch, with little to no interference except in emergency situations. The is the Deist ‘god’.
Given more time, Obama will be identified more with the 2nd method, I believe. And there are people who would jump on his case (similar to a football coach) if he didn’t just “let your people do their job”.
That’s fine when it’s working pmichael. But a lot of people are suffering, losing job, homes, families, health, etc while Obama is waiting to be identified for the genius he surely must be.
Personally. I disagree with your assessment on number 1. The God I believe in left man (the species not the gender)with all his freedom in tact. Thus we have evil, greed, etc. It is our job to overcome that.
“Personally. I disagree with your assessment on number 1. The God I believe in left man (the species not the gender)with all his freedom in tact. Thus we have evil, greed, etc. It is our job to overcome that.” djjl
djjl, the God you believe in supposedly still listens to your prayers. Thus – He is still ‘micromanaging’. That’s the difference.
A deist believes prayers work simply because the creator made ‘positive thinking’ and ‘I Believe’ as concepts that have a visable effect.
Where Obama is concerned, I think people are rightfully impatient – but as once said, ‘Rome wasn’t built in a day’.
Oh – just use the word “mankind”, djjl. It works well.
In Hebrew the word is “adam“.
Snowe Rejoins Dems At Public Option Negotiating Table
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/05/snowe-rejoins-dems-at-pub_n_381436.html
Olympia Snowe’s Vote Could Break GOP-Lieberman Filibuster
nope pmichael
I know that the answer to my prayers can always be “no.”
of course it can, djjl (‘no’). Happens every time both teams pray for a win. LOL
The point is you believe He’s listening. A deist does not.
and not to argue too much here, djjl – but you just implied sometimes the answer will also be ‘Yes’ and God will help. Thus the ‘manager’ versus the creator who doesn’t have to do anything but watch.
I implied that sometimes I will be on God’s side instead of assuming God is always on my side.
Interesting. Sometimes you are ‘not’ on God’s side?
The original comparison had to do with – Does God help you – ever? Or does He just watch what you do and observe. It was a comparison of “leadership” types. For example, Obama actually appointed 100s of people (took a character from “House” I kinda liked, so on House they had him commit suicide *L*) – but I seriously doubt if he checks on each of them daily.
Of course not. Like Bush who dealt in a war believing God was on his side. If I were always on God’s side I’d be without sin – which I am not.
Easiest way to think about, imho, is to think about how I am with my children. We tried to be sure they could be independent, self-reliant, make good decisions for themselves and for those others who people this world.
ah now I gotcha, djjl. ‘Words’ can be such fun.
But the original comparison was ‘leadership’ methods. And I think people want Obama to micro-manage too much. We’ll see, however. It may prove out he should have gotten more involved. He IS working very hard on the country’s ‘attitude’ however – as all he can do in that area is talk to us – and he’s certainly doing that.
I don’t think people want Obama to micromanage. I think they expected him to stand for something. Yes, I know that he does give speeches. I wish he would say something that indicated he had principles beyond getting himself elected. I know that he was willing to do whatever it took to be elected. How about doing what it takes for health care, gays in the military, and on and on. I daon’t take him to task about the war at this point. It isn’t easy and I have never presumed it was. Which brings to my mind his dishonest and unprincipled positions during the primary and before.
How does this work? In the month of November 11,000 more people lost their jobs then got new jobs. That’s a net loss of jobs. Yet the Obama administration tells us that the unemployment rate went from 10.2% to 10%. That means unemployment declined by 2/10ths of a percent. Huh! Is this some sort of new math that the Obama crowd has descovered? Here’s how to tell when Obama or anyone else in his administration is lying: their lips are moving. bush was a piker compared to this clown dressed in a business suit. Peace
djjl, before the election Obama clearly said he would make Afghanistan the focus, even escalating the troops there.
Then they’ll give him another four years to do even more.
What dishonest principles are you referring to? Gays in the military? That may be a ‘priorities’ issue – and he IS still in the 1st year of at least four. I’m confident he will take care of that issue as well.
When he does, a lot of people currently complaining will be stuck with only a round mouth and a nice soft, “Oh.”
Cable news is certainly creating a lot of dreary nay-saying negative people lately.
Positive thinking works better.
Imhotep, I hope you’re putting all this in your diary – so in three years you can get all embarrassed and save me the trouble. *L*
Okay – I’ll let you guys continue with therapy. It does feel good to bitch about everything sometimes. *L* Doesn’t actually help much but it feels good. That’s why afternoon soap operas are so popular.
I gotta run. Actually have a date tonight with wife #4.
“On a Monday or a Sunday well you can’t do it right.
Ain’t ya glad we got Saturday night !”
Nite all.
Have fun pmichael. I’d love to be wrong about Obama. I think he can do it – he’s got to stop running for Prom King though.
The list of grievances against Obama is growing with each passing day. At the top of that list is the fact that he doesn’t seem to be able to “close the deal” on anything that he starts. His latest debacle is the fact that his justice department is making every effort to keep the unconstitutional Patriot Act alive and intact. You would think that a guy who is a Constitutional scholar and who said over and over again on the campaign trail that he would start paying attention to the Constitution if he were elected would be doing something quite different at least in this area? Is there any doubt that we are witnessing bush/Cheney II in action? Peace
pmichael, please explain Obama’s new math to me. To do that you may need to remove your lips from his arse for a few moments. Thanks. Peace
1.”bush was a piker compared to this clown dressed in a business suit. Peace”
IJust when I think you’ve said the most moronic thing yet you go and up the ante! BRAVO! You have reached new depths even for YOU!
2.” Is there any doubt that we are witnessing bush/Cheney II in action?”
Is there any doubt we are witnessing the birth of another concern troll jackass? None whatsoever!
3.”To do that you may need to remove your lips from his arse for a few moments. Thanks”
But in order for you to SEE him remove his lips from Obama’s arse you will have to first pull YOUR head out of your OWN arse. Not all the way mind you, that might be to tramatic and ego threatening.Go right on and leave the top of your head firmly stuffed up there. But at least far enough so your mouth. ears and eyes are exposed to reality.
And buy a new Pony. The one trick one you rode in on is pretty boring by now.
secular
…..and I was just going to post this link on how the USGovt does labor statistics:
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
You just do sooooooo much better.
Imohetp is actually correct in his.her observation about unemployment. I may not agree on the deliver of the message but I have to say he.she is more often correct than not.
Here’s a thought about unemployment. The President is doing his Main Street America tour because the black caucus is on his ass and miraculously the unemployment figures drop to 11,000, which does not reflect black/hispanic unemployment in this country. Secondly, hello, even with seasonal hiring does ANYONE believe that in one month lost jobs drops from roughly 500,000 to 11,000. Spare me. The unemployment rate, counting underemployed and those who flat out have given up finding a job is over 17%.
When Obama became President the unemployment rate was, correct me if I am wrong, 8.6 percent. With the stimulus package we were promised that unemployment would not increase. Where are we now? Who knows for sure because the are friggin lying about it for political purposes.
Here’s an example of how bad it is. CNN does a poll of how folks are feeling about Obama’s handling of the economy/unemployment. Want to know there definition of a Blue Collar worker. Anyone 18 and older who does not have a college degree.
I need say no more.
Hey imhotep — I am posting this for you. Hope you understand, others may not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQpyxh3xpv8
Video embedded by TM.com
I just want to know if the manner of determining those figures have changed in the last year.
pmichael, please explain Obama’s new math to me. To do that you may need to remove your lips from his arse for a few moments
Just a small break between Saturday orgasms *L*
To interpret the word “trust” and twist it into kissing someone’s proverbial ass (simply because you happen to disagree?) means you honestly do need to get some help, Imhotep. Pehaps we should send Homeland Security to you as one of those ‘desperate’ sorts. I’m sorry.
Oops. Gina’s yellin’ for me. Back to Lionel Ritchie and her.
Night again. Hope you’re not TOO sad sitting there playing with yourself, Imhotep.
We’ll pray for you. *GriN*
Kris, if you have a message you want people to take seriously I would suggest covering yourself with shit, dousing that shit with Coal Oil(burns longer then gasoline and the fumes don’t explode…what am I talkin about! We’re talkin Imhopless ain’t we…GASOLINE)and strike a match before you start screaming and gibbering.
In the past Imhopless actally HAS made a legit point or two. But he/she/it just can’t get beyond that 14 year old middleschool level emotional development and pshycotic hate everything Obama frame of presentation to garner anything but hoots of derrision from the hoi palloi. Well earned too.
AND according to the numbers that have been used for some time now he/she/it’s just plain wrong. Gotta use the same numbers the’ve used for sometime now to be fair…which he/she/it ain’t.
But he/she/it SURE is impressed with him/her/itself!
That should read in the first sentence I would NOT suggest.
Iceblinkjm says:
05 December 2009 at 1:36 pm
Thanks so much for that, Iceblinkjm. When you look back on this year, the amount of missed opportunities from Pres. Obama and his administration are staggering. “The fierce urgency of now” turning into something that has hurt his presidency, which we can only pray won’t sink us all.
I’d like to talk common sense with you and pmichael, secularhuam, but first you must tell me whether or not you are an adherent of secular humanism? I’d ask pmichael the same question but he seems to be so emotionally overcome by the fact that he can still perform in a normal way, sexually, that it seems almost cruel to coitus interruptus him. Peace
heh-heh… good one re: pmichael, Imhotep, something I’m fairly certain he will appreciate.
Hey secular -
I don’t disagree with imhotep’s delivery of message problems at all. You and I might communicate differently, as we certainly do, but that doesn’t mean he/she is always wrong. That’s my point. And I certainly agree with the discussion of unemployment. The figures the feds put out are typically not an accurate picture.
As for your reference to douse myself with gasoline, oil, or whatever and strike a match….I don’t find that very amusing. My first thoughts when I read that lovely sentiment was the young man in Florida who had that very thing happen to him at the hands of so called “friends”. If you know how awful that story is you might want to consider using more discretion.
Just thought I’d stop in and wish everybody happy holidays. I’ve been checking in and reading the threads, but haven’t wasted my time commenting.
Most of the threads have just ended up bashing and bitching about Obama. I really wonder what some of you thought he was when you voted for him? As a left winger, I knew he was a middle of the road Democrat just like Hillary. There was no viable progressive left of center Democrat running. For the left to think he has betrayed us, is just foolish.
I wonder how progressives would feel if McCain and the wicked witch of the north was in the White House right now? We would be in a full blown depression, with unemployment running around 30 or 40 percent. We would have another right wing Supreme Court Judge, and a hell of a lot more troops in Afghanistan. The rest of the world would still hate us, and we would be going alone in the middle east.
I said way back that Obama was just a small step in the right direction, and we all would have to continue to work for a true progressive to sit in the White House. We voted Obama into the White House, but we also sent back to Washington the same bunch of do nothing Democrats, and at the same time bitch at Obama for not doing enough.
To sum up my rant, I’m not going to spend time on a blog bashing the President day in and day out. I’ll go were I can bash the right wing and congress. I’ll leave it to you guys to be disappointed with the President, day in and day out. I know who my enemy is, and its not Obama.
Always happy when someone stops by, especially for holiday wishes, angels81.
Pres. Obama has earned the criticism he’s getting on most fronts. It’s not enough to vote for him, because he was far better choice than McCain-Palin, then simply throw up your hands to say, well, that’s done, now let’s bash the wingnuts.
If movement activists like t4h, djjl, LakeLady and *many* others writing me via emails hadn’t pushed Congress & Obama, the public option would be DEAD. Obama *never* had the passion to push for it. Mind you, it still may not make it in, but w/o movement activists we’d have a much worse health care bill.
Additionally, laziness to cheer Obama & Dems also led to Stupak-Pitts, similar language still possible in the end.
I’m also not sensing the “right direction” re: Obama where action is concerned, particularly on the bailout and stimulus, something that is coming back to haunt ALL Dems, which can be laid @ Obama’s economic policy’s doorstep.
It’s not enough to be happy with a Dem president, especially when the agenda is working at half the pace it should, while wasting the first year, which is ending with more Americans not happy with Obama’s policies, even if they like him personally.
angels81 says:
06 December 2009 at 11:33 am
Happy Holidays to you, too. I always enjoy reading what you have to say, as I do everyone else. So many times I feel myself being split right down the middle of these arguments, seeing both sides and hoping for the best. Sometimes I feel like I should wait and see before judging too much. All I know for sure is that this country is being run by the corporations more than ever and it requires a lot of fight and push to agitate for change. It shouldn’t be this hard but it is. I respect Taylor’s comments about this. Have a wonderful holiday, Angels, and I hope you keep commenting. Your rants are pretty polite.
angels81
Happy Holidays to you and the Redhead.
There are some who said we’d have to “make” Obama do what he campaigned he’d do. I’ve been working on it as have others. And, No, I don’t feels sorry for the poor little fella getting stuck with this pitiful Democratic House and Senate. Any number of them have shown courage and leadership and many have been pleading for leadership from the Democratic President and the leader of the Democratic Party.
My guess is he’s reluctant to have to take responsibility for the direction leadership must take. No, I don’t intend to wallow around on blogs kicking the ass of those who didn’t win. I intend to spend time writing, working and phoning kicking the ass of the one(s) who did win – including Obama.
Hey angles I get what you are saying but Taylor is right he is missing opportunies that are not going to come around again for a long time. I agree we would be much worse off with McCain and that many of our problems in this country lay at the feet of congress but we do have a majority and he did come into office with a lot of wind at his back.
Have a great holiday with the little redhead and your daughter and grandkids and keep stopping in……
“As for your reference to douse myself with gasoline, oil, or whatever and strike a match….I don’t find that very amusing. My first thoughts when I read that lovely sentiment was the young man in Florida who had that very thing happen to him at the hands of so called “friends”. If you know how awful that story is you might want to consider using more discretion.”
Well in point of fact the punks doused him with rubbing alcohol.
That dosen’t take away from the pain and horror of that boy’s experiance but it seems to me if we don’t ever speak of something because the same awful thing happened to somebody somewhere, sometime we ain’t left with much. Cause there isn’t much in the way of awful, horrific things that we haven’t done to one another somewhere, sometime as species go.
And I have the personal knowledge of EXACTLY what massive burn victems suffer along with the accompanying smells and sights from my time as an employee of Uncle Sugar and a little incident of a fuel bladder taking a Tracer round AND when my stupid brother did a credible imitation of a Pot Roast one New Years eve after nailing a telephone pole while drunk and recieving third and second degree burns from his chest down when the gas tank in his corvair exploded.
I guess I’m just raw, crude and upfront and frankly don’t give a damn whether I offend anyones sensibilities anymore. In fact…never did.
Generally speaking most everyone knows where I stand on any given issue and that is the most impotant thing to me.
Hey Angels, have a Happy,Happy,Merry,Merry
“Imhotep says:
06 December 2009 at 10:56 am
I’d like to talk common sense with you and pmichael, secularhuam,”
REALLY! HONEST! I am like…SOOOOO honored an stuff. On second thought…fuck off. And a Happy New Year too!
Thanks for the response secular.
True enough that everyone knows where you stand on issues, but for me sometimes, like iimhotep, the delivery rubs me the wrong way.
You and I have gone around and around on this so for my side of things, enough said.
BTW – your stained glass is beautiful.
Imho reminds me of all those angry younuns I knew when I worked at Swarthmore College. When you got down to it we probably agreed on quite a few politicol positions, but he/she/it is such a knee jerk caricature of a screaming, flaming leftist with all the facist, warmonger bullpicky, especuially when he/she/it’s refering to OUR sides pols it is just impossible to that him/her/it seriously. And like I said, since they are the poster child for the rightwingnuts as far as leftwing politics go it is also kinda embarrassing to have to claim them and their juvinile excesses as our own.
But then maybe they aren’t. Our own that is. Maybe they are just that anarchist fringe that runs around in torn T shirts with their little red A in a circle being the angry young people and are only casually associating themselves with the Dems as a matter of convieniance? I mean, like NOBODY reads their blogs. NOBODY pays any attention to them whenever they hold their OWN little gatherings.
Maybe they’re just the fleas on the bluedog’s back?
Thanks for the opinion on the glass. Need any? Anybody?