The GREEN Revolution Day 11 + IN HONOR AND REMEMBRANCE OF NEDA.
23 June 2009 9:34 am by GeoT
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6558124.ece
From The Times
June 23, 2009
Like the student in Tiananmen Square, Neda has become a tragic icon
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6558124.ece
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Will the mainstream media, or the people of the world fro that mater have the attention span to continue to follow the events on the ground or will there be a bright new shiny object come along to distract them?
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Someone yesterday at the NAF addressed Tiananmen, though I don’t see in my notes who it was. I believe it was Molavi. Anyway, Tehran is *not* analogous to Tiananmen for many reasons.
One reason is that Tiananmen happened during the middle of Deng Xiaoping’s rein. The current uprising in Tehran is happening because of a very disputed re-election, which puts the drama at a much more dynamic moment for Ahmadinejad, with the clerics also split.
Taylor Marsh says:
23 June 2009 at 9:39 am
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I really agree with you Taylor the comparisons are cursory at best.
But as you say “perception is everything” and if her memory takes hold as the symbol of the Revolution she’ll become Iran’s version of the “Man that defied the tanks” while still representing something very different as far as what the Revolution is all about.
That’s why I mention it. Neda has earned her own spot. Comparisons aren’t necessary. What is unfolding in Iran stands alone.
John F. Kennedy put it best -
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
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IRAN PROTEST IMAGES IN TRIBUTE TO NEDA
(video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMJ48Oe3nRw
I am SO LOVING THIS…
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/23/britain-tosses-out-2-iranian-diplomats/
Go Britain.
Taylor Marsh says:
23 June 2009 at 11:16 am
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sesm like kids sandbox stuff it it wasn’t so serious…
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Taylor:
Based on your new post (front page) do you think we will go a full 180, from “Obama handled this with deftness and in-line with what was best for the Iranians on the street…
to “Boy he really screwed this up…. mamby pamby from the get-go and down hill from there.?” What’s your hunch?
HP front page:
OBAMA TO CONDEMN IRAN’S VIOLENCE AT PRESS CONFERENCE
Analysis: More Cracks In The Regime Emerging… Another Western Journalist Arrested… Reformers Remain In The Streets Despite Crackdown… Iran Council Rules Out Vote Annulment…
Laura Rozen reports: “President Barack Obama will condemn Iranian government use of violence against peaceful protesters and other human rights abuses at a 12:30pm news conference, sources in touch with the administration say.”
Neww grounf strategy via Nico
10:47 AM ET — Strategy for a national strike. An Iranian on Twitter who often communicates Mousavi’s strategic efforts describes one part of his supporters’ plan to carry out a national strike.
Mousavi – We will not expend any more energy talking to the Gov in the streets – we must change course
Mousavi – From Today every morning at 9am WE ALL travel to Tehran Bazaar – whatever reaction from Gov – Bazaar will close
Mousavi – stop all work and travel with friends & family toward Tehran Bazaar every day at 9am
Mousavi – do NOT wear green – dress normally – bring your children – if stopped u are ONLY going shopping
Mousavi – the objective is to bring Tehran to standstill – millions of people go shopping but NOBODY SHOPPING
Mousavi – There is nothing to fear – if asked – YOU ARE ONLY GOING SHOPPING
Mousavi – no matter what the reaction of the Gov – the Bazaar will close or be at standstill
23 Jun 2009 11:28 am
Those Ballsy Soccer Players
Banned for life for wearing green.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/23/iran-football-protest-ban
My headline should actually be The GREEN Revolution Day 11 (Eleven) not 10
bbl today.
Hi kris! (when you come around)
MAJOR grain of salt alert on this twitter via AS:
Rafsanjani controls much of the army – until now he is silent – after trigger event he will act
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now really bbl. G
GeoT says:
23 June 2009 at 11:23 am
Obama will reiterate what was released only in a statement over the weekend, delivered in person so the world, but also the GOP peanut gallery, has tape & audio.
His statement over the weekend, timed to the ratcheting up of violence, was dead on. But that he didn’t make it until *after* the crackdown is important.
Hey GeoT —
What did you think of the Prez?
And what do you think his reaction will be when protesters are going to be made “an example of” by the special court that is being set up?
kris says:
23 June 2009 at 1:44 pm
Hey GeoT —
What did you think of the Prez?
The “Prez” spoke like a strong leader. And I heard some encouraging words on the health care issue. Congress needs to do the trench warfare on that, using the “Prez’s” prompting as a catapult.
kris says:
23 June 2009 at 1:45 pm
And what do you think his reaction will be when protesters are going to be made “an example of” by the special court that is being set up?
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I’ll just let you answer your own rhetorical questions on that 2nd one..
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I’m knee deep. bbl again.
Awesome video. Perfect song for the topic.
1 more thing 4 now:
Parsi On Obama
What John McCain refuses to understand:
Trita Parsi, President of the National Iranian American Council, said: “Condemning violence is different from taking sides in Iran’s election dispute. People in Iran have told NIAC’s Iranian-American membership that they don’t want the US to get itself involved in the conflict, but they do want to see the government’s use of violence condemned… Calls by Republican lawmakers to explicitly side with a specific candidate or movement in Iran can be extremely harmful to that candidate or movement. If our intention is to help, we have to first listen to the people in Iran rather than to pretend to speak for them without ever having had consulted with them,” Parsi added.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/parsi-on-obama.html
GeoT -
This may surprise you since I am one of the President’s frequent critics – I think he did an outstanding job today and his comments and observations are right on the mark.
As to my “rhetorical” question – I think it is interesting to think about. I am confident his response would be the right one. And I am certain he is pondering his options.
kris says:
23 June 2009 at 3:29 pm
GeoT -
This may surprise you since I am one of the President’s frequent critics – I think he did an outstanding job today and his comments and observations are right on the mark.
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say that again
Okay.
This may surprise you since I am one of the Presidents frequent critics- I think he did an outstanding job today and his comments and observations are right on that mark.
Gotta run my mother to the doctor. bbl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/23/mccain-hits-obama-on-iran_n_219407.html
The measured manner of Obama’s response, while criticized by some, has been described as essential by many foreign policy observers. On Monday night, Time Magazine’s Joe Klein applauded the president for his approach. And when asked about earlier McCain’s remarks, he urged the Arizona Republican to stop talking.
“Be quiet,” said Klein. “You don’t need to do this. You know? You know what you’re doing is a self-indulgent at this point. Sen. McCain, if he’s going to talk about this, should also talk about the fact that the United States supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war for eight years. Every one of those protesters out in the streets, every last one of them believes the United States supplied Saddam Hussein with the poison gas that has debilitated tens of thousands of Iranian men.”
kris says:
23 June 2009 at 3:54 pm
Okay.
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My answer to you yesterday got lost in the either somewhere. Anyway, still dealing with family issues on this end. Maybe all of us can get a thread going someday and talk about some personal life issue… anonymously of course!
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for djjl:
Christiane Amanpour: Islamic Revolution Is Why I Entered Journalism
Editor’s Note: CNN Chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour joined Lesley Stahl this morning for a wOw exclusive interview, in which these incredible journalists cover topics ranging from reporting on the crisis in Iran to the counterintuitively dominant role of women there to Christiane’s Iranian upbringing with her “accidental refugee” family. Read on.
http://www.wowowow.com/politics/lesley-stahl-interview-christiane-amanpour-height-iranian-election-aftermath-322988
words from twitter:
the only question now is how will the end happen – peacefully or with civil war
the ppl have lost all faith in this Gov – Iran can never be same as b4 again