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What Clinton Really Said About Torture


Welcome to the ongoing drama What Clinton Really Said
fill in the blank on subject or town here — which has now become an ongoing and never ending saga. But at least people are starting to pay closer attention to the difference
between sloppy, cut and paste reporting, and what Clinton actually says on any
given issue or does in any given town. We’re making a dent.

Today see Greg
Sargent
. It all it started with Ann Kornblut of the Washington Post,
aided by Dan Baltz, the same guy who got it wrong on the Randall Rolph Iowa
kerfuffle
.


Clinton was similarly vague about how she would handle special interrogation
methods used by the CIA. She said that while she does not condone torture,
so much has been kept secret that she would not know unless elected what other
extreme measures interrogators are using, and therefore could not say whether
she would change or continue existing policies.

“It is not clear yet exactly what this administration is or isn’t doing.
We’re getting all kinds of mixed messages,” Clinton said. “I don’t
think we’ll know the truth until we have a new president. I think [until]
you can get in there and actually bore into what’s been going on, you’re not
going to know.”

The interview, held as her bus sat parked outside an event site in Cedar
Rapids on Monday, came in the middle of an important campaign swing for Clinton.
… ..

Clinton
Cites Lessons of Partisanship

Notice that after the statement of Clinton supposedly not knowing the truth
until a new president is in
culminates Clinton’s opinion on torture, according
to Ms. Kornblut and Mr. Baltz. Immediately upon reading, some of the boys in
the blogosphere blew up.

Andrew Sullivan played his usual hate Hillary role and wigged out.

Stoller went off
with a post that began, “Ah, change.”

Kevin Drum did too, then
took offense
at being called on falling for Kornblut’s nonsense, which even after
seeing the full transcript didn’t make a dent. That’s Kevin Drum.

This is what really went down in the interview.


Q: Can I ask you a follow up? You mentioned Blackwater, you’ve said that
at the beginning of your administration you’d ask the Pentagon to report.
When it comes to special interrogation methods, obviously you’ve said you’re
against torture, but the types of methods that are now used that aren’t technically
torture but are still permitted, would you do something in your first couple
days to address that, suspend some of the special interrogation methods immediately
or ask for some kind of review?

HRC: Well I think I’ve been very clear about that too, we should not conduct
or condone torture and it is not clear yet exactly what this administration
is or isn’t doing, we’re getting all kinds of mixed messages. I don’t think
we’ll know the truth until we have a new President. I think once you can get
in there and actually bore into what’s been going on, you’re not going to
know. I was very touched by the story you guys had on the front page
the other day about the WWII interrogators. I mean it’s not the same situation
but it was a very clear rejection of what we think we know about what is going
on right now but I want to know everything, and so I think we have to draw
a bright line and say ‘No torture – abide by the Geneva conventions,
abide by the laws we have passed,’ and then try to make sure we implement
that.
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Greg
Sargent

Details. Details. Details. They just take up so much space and time and are
such a pain of a bother. It’s much easier to repeat what the hack pack press writes, especially if it’s negative about Clinton.

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